Dear Members of the Language Committee,
I am writing this on behalf of the budding Konkani Wikipedia community
and with regard to the request made for making the Konkani Wikipedia
Live [1]. Some of the active Konkani Wikimedians are also copied on this
e-mail.
The community is eager to know what further steps they should take so
that this project could live. Please also note that the community
members did a translation sprint of essential Media Wiki message on
translatewiki.net during December 2013 and January 2014. However, this
is not reflected correctly on translatewiki and on Meta. The
translations are visible against the specific user contributions, e.g.
see this [2].
Would appreciate specific guidance from the Language Committee to help
make this project live as per the aspirations of the Konkani Wikimedians.
Thanks,
Vishnu
[1]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Konkan…
[2]
https://translatewiki.net/w/i.php?title=Special:Contributions/Darshan_kando…
Dear Santhosh, MF-Warburg and other LangCom members,
Yes, the current request from the Konkani Wikipedia community is to make
the Konkani Wikipedia live in the *Devanagari script*. It has been
mentioned in the request page on Meta and I have now highlighted it.[0]
Of course, the community also wants the LangCom to consider incubating
separate Konkani Wikipedia projects in Romi (i.e. Latin script) and
Kannada scripts - two other popular variants of Konkani. This will
ensure that the rich diversity of Konkani language and the knowledge in
all these three major script variants will flourish along with the
associated communities.
If I may be allowed, I would like to bring to the notice of the LangCom
members that CIS-A2K[1] has been putting focussed efforts on Konkani
Wikipedia and has managed to nurture and grow a volunteer community that
is now sustainable.
The multiple scripts (Konkani is written in 5 scripts) has been a great
challenge to understand and work with, especially when each script
variant is tied to specific religious and regional community and has
significant variations. We have left no stone unturned in objectively
finding a practical solution to this multiple script issue, including a
script converter. In this process we have consulted Konkani Wikipedians,
Konkani linguists, professors from Konkani Department at Goa University,
Konkani cultural experts, bureaucrats in the government, media personnel
and arrived at the conclusion of having separate Wiki projects for each
of the three script variants (i.e. Devanagari, Romi (Latin) and Kannada).
We have also requested Fr. Pratap Naik [2] a notable linguist, who has
worked on all the script variants of Konkani language for many years to
give his expert opinion in writing, which is available here [3]. This
note has been widely circulated and everyone, including the currently
active Konkani Wikipedians (majority of which edits in Devanagari
variant) believe that having three Konkani Wikipedias for the three
script variants is the way to go.
*May I reiterate that the current request is to only make the Konkani
Wikipedia, in Devanagari, live.*
It's been a huge personal learning for me about this rich language and
culture and I have some intimate context [4] on the multiple scripts
issue and would be happy to answer questions if the committee has any. I
am reasonably positive that we will see three active Konkani Wikipedias
soon. Having the Devanagari one live will only create a healthy competition.
Thanks,
Vishnu
CIS-A2K, Programme Director
[0]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Konkan…
[1]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/India_Access_To_Knowledge/Work_plan_July_20…
[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pratap_Naik
[3]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:India_Access_To_Knowledge/Konkani_Wiki…
[4] http://www.sfxkutamuae.com/news.asp?id=8698 (I have since then been
invited to be part of the Konkani Language Planning-Steering Committee
by the Global Konkani Conclave)
On 01/02/2015 10:13 AM, langcom-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org wrote:
> Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2015 10:13:12 +0530
> From: Santhosh Thottingal<santhosh.thottingal(a)gmail.com>
> To: Wikimedia Foundation Language committee
> <langcom-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
> Cc: Wikimedia Foundation Language Committee
> <langcom(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
> Subject: Re: [Langcom] [Langcom-l] Konkani
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> On Friday, January 2, 2015, MF-Warburg<mfwarburg(a)googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>> >I wonder about the following points:
>> >
>> >1.) script
>> >Ethnologue says they use Kannada and Latin <
>> >https://www.ethnologue.com/language/gom>. Translatewiki.net offers the
>> >possibility to also translate in Devanagari, Malayalam and Arabic scripts <
>> >https://translatewiki.net/wiki/Portal:Gom>.
>> >How should this be handled? On Incubator I see that there are articles in
>> >Latin, Kannada and Devanagari, see e.g. <
>> >https://incubator.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:PrefixIndex&from=…>
>> >It seems like they are distinguished with "dn" and "kd"
>> > prefixes. Some pages also contain several scripts in one article. How
>> >should this be handled? Should there be separate wikis for each script, or
>> >better a converter? I wouldn't want a situation like with az/azb to appear
>> >because of different scripts.
>> >
> When I met Vishnu a few days back, he told me that what community request
> with gom.wiki*.org is Devanagari script. He said they explored the option
> of automatic script conversion between other scripts and experts suggested
> not to do so. He clarified that this request is only for Konkani with
> devangari script. But since this was only a verbal communication, shall I
> ask them to write these details in the request page[1]?
>
> [1]
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Konkan…
>
> Thanks
> Santhosh
>
Dear ALL,
I am Gabriel Lee from Hong Kong, I would like to be a member in the
Langcom. I know zh-n, zh-yue-5, en-5, ja-2 and fr-2. Please contact me with
sending a mail to chihonglee777(a)gmail.com. Thanks a lot!
Regards,
Gabriel Chi Hong Lee
Dear MF-Warburg and all enthusiast Friends,
We are glad to share you about the growth in contribution in Awadhi
Wikipedia Incubation recent days.
I acknowledge all contributors in the incubator page especially Mr. Anurag
Pandey a native Awadhi speaker wikipedian (Also editor in Nepali,Hindi and
Maithli Wikipedia) for his contributions and outstanding outreach
activities for contributors growth.
The wiki has exceeded 1K articles in various topics now. Please follow the
link below.
https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wp/awa/Main_Page
The Awadhi Wikipedia activity here:
Awadhi incubator stats
<https://tools.wmflabs.org/meta/catanalysis/index.php?cat=0&title=Wp/awa&wik…>
Awadhi Wikipedia community has been organized by various means of social
media. Please find the Maithili Wikipedia Facebook page here:
https://www.facebook.com/AwadhiWiki
We have been communicating various organizations related to Awadhi language
for collaboration. They have shown interest to support the Wiki to make it
a rich Wikipedia.
Now, we have got a mentionable number of contributors, number of articles
and considerably good interface translation. Therefore we request to
publish Awadhi Wikipedia out from the incubation. We assure to give
qualitative and quantitative contribution in this wiki.
With best regards
Biplab Anand
Wikipedians of Nepal
There is currently a discussion.
2015-01-02 1:46 GMT+01:00 Asaf Bartov <abartov(a)wikimedia.org>:
> I'm confused by the purpose of this communication. Has the committee made
> a decision?
>
> A.
> On Jan 1, 2015 4:47 AM, "Gerard Meijssen" <gerard.meijssen(a)gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hoi,
>> I am on record that I want this to happen. I am on record that it helps
>> when they start adding information in Wikidata so that the search engine
>> can find items that are in Wikidata preferably with a label in Konkani.
>>
>> I do know that institutions are happy to support Konkani in a practical
>> manner. My problem is not that I do not endorse it. My problem is that the
>> language committee has to agree to this. One vote against and it is the no
>> show we face.
>> Thanks,
>> GerardM
>>
>> On 16 December 2014 at 07:46, Asaf Bartov <abartov(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear LangCom,
>>>
>>> I understand there is an open request to move the Konkani Wikipedia
>>> ('gom') out of the purgatory of the Incubator. In my WMF role, I have some
>>> context on the efforts that have sparked this young community, and would be
>>> happy to answer questions if the committee has any. To be clear, I fully
>>> endorse the request.
>>>
>>> Please let me know if you think you need further information to make a
>>> decision.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Asaf
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Dear LangCom,
Forwarding an e-mail that was sent to the list on December 12, 2014.
Looks like I had sent it from a mail address through which I did not
have the subscription to the list, and probably it may been held up.
Dear Members of the Language Committee,
I am writing this on behalf of the budding Konkani Wikipedia community
and with regard to the request made for making the Konkani Wikipedia
Live [1]. Some of the active Konkani Wikimedians are also copied on this
e-mail.
The community is eager to know what further steps they should take so
that this project could live. Please also note that the community
members did a translation sprint of essential Media Wiki message on
translatewiki.net during December 2013 and January 2014. However, this
is not reflected correctly on translatewiki and on Meta. The
translations are visible against the specific user contributions, e.g.
see this [2].
Would appreciate specific guidance from the Language Committee to help
make this project live as per the aspirations of the Konkani Wikimedians.
Thanks,
Vishnu
CIS-A2K
[1]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Konkan…
[2]
https://translatewiki.net/w/i.php?title=Special:Contributions/Darshan_kando…