On 29 September 2012 20:58, WereSpielChequers
<werespielchequers(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:
James, if you are accusing a charity of throwing away
money could you be
specific as to which charity you are accusing of throwing away money?
I'm not aware of any of WMUK's financial decisions being disputed.
By contrast the WMF by processing the payments for this years fundraiser
will lose the movement as a whole hundreds of thousands of pounds. This is
partly because they are not a UK registered charity and WMUK is, so Gift
Aid of probably more than £100,000 won't be achieved, but I suspect that
even more will be lost because as a US organisation they can't collect by
direct debits. Over the next few decades that will lose the movement
several times as much as the foregone Gift Aid money.
Indeed. Lesson here: WMF would prefer to lose 30% of its UK income than
risk a PR scandal in the UK. I'm not sure when we (they?) have become so
cash-strapped and image-conscious.
However the WMF doesn't have a formal membership structure, or at least
not one I'm aware of. So were you suggesting that WMUK has been throwing
away money?
WSC
On 29 September 2012 13:20, James Farrar <james.farrar(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Indeed, and for now I remain a member.
This is subject to finding out precisely why the charity is voluntarily
throwing away money.
On Sep 28, 2012 11:11 PM, "Deryck Chan" <deryckchan(a)gmail.com> wrote:
There is, an will always be, the option to donate
to WMUK rather than
WMF even if WMUK isn't the default payment processor anymore.
What I can certainly see is a fragmented 2012 fundraiser, with certain
donors staying with WMUK and others switching to WMF because that's where
the default landing page now points them to. Lots of returning donors will
be very very confused either because they can't gift-aid their donations,
or because two "Wikipedia organisations" are asking for their money at the
same time.
On 28 September 2012 22:50, James Farrar <james.farrar(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Well, there goes my donation.
On Sep 28, 2012 9:16 PM, "David Gerard" <dgerard(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On 28 September 2012 21:14, Chris Keating <chriskeatingwiki(a)gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I'd like to draw to your attention this joint statement with the
> Foundation
> > which I have just, with the authority of the Board, posted on our
> blog
> > regarding the management of conflicts of interests and this year's
> > fundraiser.
> >
>
http://blog.wikimedia.org.uk/2012/09/joint-statement-from-wikimedia-foundat…
>
>
> Right, so money->SF and so much for Gift Aid?
>
>
> - d.
>
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