[Wikimediaindia-l] Webfonts deployment on Indic Wikiprojects

[Bala Jeyaraman]

*  Safeguarding from a horrible deployment? Could you please
stop exaggerating things? *

Try deploying this kind of code to english wikipedia and you will find out
our response is extremely mild. A website that is getting million page
views shouldnt be used as a live test bed for a mandatory default feature.
We have been boasting that wikipedia are among the top 5 websites in the
world. Try rolling out this kind of code in any of the top 100 websites as
a  mandatory default feature and see what happens.

*Please be constructive and help us as you were doing*

So stating the truth is being unconstructive?. You could have rolled this
out in phases or as a "dark launch" as you are contemplating now, done more
testing and saved us all this bitterness and trouble. Instead you decided
to go live on a massive scale without adequate testing in live environment
being accessed by millions of people everyday. What kind of reaction did
your expect?.

I could have been content with stopping the Tamil deployment and went on
with my work. Instead i have spent nearly 20 hours testing other languages
so that this tool gets better. Remember i am a volunteer, taking time off
from my day job to test your code - something you should have done as part
your professional work.


On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 12:03 PM, Santhosh Thottingal <
santhosh.thottingal at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 11:29 AM, Srikanth Lakshmanan
> <srik.lak at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/mediawiki-i18n/2011-December/000361.html
> >>
> >> "In order to force them, "if you don't test this it may break horribly
> >> for you when deployed" seems way more convincing than "no new goodies
> >> for you"."
> >>
> >> This attitude of i18n is not only very dangerous for the communities and
> >> languages but also very unprofessional.
>
> Please read that mail once again, this was a response by
> Platonides(not an i18n team member) to the comment by Srikanth L .
> Srikanth said: " If people are not interested to join them, they must
> be forced to join
> > them(by way of not supporting them/ deploying any component for the
> > language) so as to provide better support."
>
> And now you are saying that it is the attitude of i18n and calling it
> dangerous and unprofessional!  Wonderful Ravishankar.
>
> >. Nothing that breaks
> > horrible must ever be deployed. We safeguarded Tamil(Malayalam folks did
> > theirs too), we frankly didnt care much for others before the launch.
>
>
> Srikanth, While I really appreciate the efforts you and Bala did with
> the testing and reporting bugs, this kind of comments  really
> disappoint us.  You are aware that the we were working round the clock
> to fix all the bugs within hours and we wrote the complete details in
> report.  Safeguarding from a horrible deployment? Could you please
> stop exaggerating things? We did expect bugs when we do this kind of
> large scale deployment with too many languages, browsers, operating
> systems and we addressed each of the bugs within hours. Some of these
> bugs can be only detected when we expose the tool to a larger
> audience. You are aware of that. All the open bugs now present are
> are not in our control - Browser bugs and Fonts bug, we disabled them
> for time being.
>
> Please be constructive and help us as you were doing. We deserve some
> appreciation for what we are doing.
>
>
> -Santhosh
>
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