* Safeguarding from a horrible deployment? Could you please
stop exaggerating things? *
Try deploying this kind of code to english wikipedia and you will find out
our response is extremely mild. A website that is getting million page
views shouldnt be used as a live test bed for a mandatory default feature.
We have been boasting that wikipedia are among the top 5 websites in the
world. Try rolling out this kind of code in any of the top 100 websites as
a mandatory default feature and see what happens.
*Please be constructive and help us as you were doing*
So stating the truth is being unconstructive?. You could have rolled this
out in phases or as a "dark launch" as you are contemplating now, done more
testing and saved us all this bitterness and trouble. Instead you decided
to go live on a massive scale without adequate testing in live environment
being accessed by millions of people everyday. What kind of reaction did
your expect?.
I could have been content with stopping the Tamil deployment and went on
with my work. Instead i have spent nearly 20 hours testing other languages
so that this tool gets better. Remember i am a volunteer, taking time off
from my day job to test your code - something you should have done as part
your professional work.
On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 12:03 PM, Santhosh Thottingal <
santhosh.thottingal(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 11:29 AM, Srikanth Lakshmanan
<srik.lak(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/mediawiki-i18n/2011-December/000361.ht…
>
>> "In order to force them,
"if you don't test this it may break horribly
>> for you when deployed" seems way more convincing than "no new goodies
>> for you"."
>
>> This attitude of i18n is not
only very dangerous for the communities and
>> languages but also very unprofessional.
Please read that mail once again, this was a response by
Platonides(not an i18n team member) to the comment by Srikanth L .
Srikanth said: " If people are not interested to join them, they must
be forced to join
them(by way of not supporting them/ deploying any
component for the
language) so as to provide better support."
And now you are saying that it is the attitude of i18n and calling it
dangerous and unprofessional! Wonderful Ravishankar.
. Nothing that breaks
horrible must ever be deployed. We safeguarded Tamil(Malayalam folks did
theirs too), we frankly didnt care much for others before the launch.
Srikanth, While I really appreciate the efforts you and Bala did with
the testing and reporting bugs, this kind of comments really
disappoint us. You are aware that the we were working round the clock
to fix all the bugs within hours and we wrote the complete details in
report. Safeguarding from a horrible deployment? Could you please
stop exaggerating things? We did expect bugs when we do this kind of
large scale deployment with too many languages, browsers, operating
systems and we addressed each of the bugs within hours. Some of these
bugs can be only detected when we expose the tool to a larger
audience. You are aware of that. All the open bugs now present are
are not in our control - Browser bugs and Fonts bug, we disabled them
for time being.
Please be constructive and help us as you were doing. We deserve some
appreciation for what we are doing.
-Santhosh
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