<i> Safeguarding from a horrible deployment? Could you please<br>
stop exaggerating things? </i><br><br>Try deploying this kind of code to english wikipedia and you will find out our response is extremely mild. A website that is getting million page views shouldnt be used as a live test bed for a mandatory default feature. We have been boasting that wikipedia are among the top 5 websites in the world. Try rolling out this kind of code in any of the top 100 websites as a mandatory default feature and see what happens. <br>
<br><i>Please be constructive and help us as you were doing</i><br><div class="gmail_quote"><br>So stating the truth is being unconstructive?. You could have rolled this out in phases or as a "dark launch" as you are contemplating now, done more testing and saved us all this bitterness and trouble. Instead you decided to go live on a massive scale without adequate testing in live environment being accessed by millions of people everyday. What kind of reaction did your expect?. <br>
<br>I could have been content with stopping the Tamil deployment and went on with my work. Instead i have spent nearly 20 hours testing other languages so that this tool gets better. Remember i am a volunteer, taking time off from my day job to test your code - something you should have done as part your professional work.<br>
<br><br>On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 12:03 PM, Santhosh Thottingal <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:santhosh.thottingal@gmail.com">santhosh.thottingal@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div class="im">On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 11:29 AM, Srikanth Lakshmanan<br>
<<a href="mailto:srik.lak@gmail.com">srik.lak@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> <a href="http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/mediawiki-i18n/2011-December/000361.html" target="_blank">http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/mediawiki-i18n/2011-December/000361.html</a><br>
>><br>
>> "In order to force them, "if you don't test this it may break horribly<br>
>> for you when deployed" seems way more convincing than "no new goodies<br>
>> for you"."<br>
>><br>
>> This attitude of i18n is not only very dangerous for the communities and<br>
>> languages but also very unprofessional.<br>
<br>
</div>Please read that mail once again, this was a response by<br>
Platonides(not an i18n team member) to the comment by Srikanth L .<br>
Srikanth said: " If people are not interested to join them, they must<br>
be forced to join<br>
> them(by way of not supporting them/ deploying any component for the<br>
> language) so as to provide better support."<br>
<br>
And now you are saying that it is the attitude of i18n and calling it<br>
dangerous and unprofessional! Wonderful Ravishankar.<br>
<div class="im"><br>
>. Nothing that breaks<br>
> horrible must ever be deployed. We safeguarded Tamil(Malayalam folks did<br>
> theirs too), we frankly didnt care much for others before the launch.<br>
<br>
<br>
</div>Srikanth, While I really appreciate the efforts you and Bala did with<br>
the testing and reporting bugs, this kind of comments really<br>
disappoint us. You are aware that the we were working round the clock<br>
to fix all the bugs within hours and we wrote the complete details in<br>
report. Safeguarding from a horrible deployment? Could you please<br>
stop exaggerating things? We did expect bugs when we do this kind of<br>
large scale deployment with too many languages, browsers, operating<br>
systems and we addressed each of the bugs within hours. Some of these<br>
bugs can be only detected when we expose the tool to a larger<br>
audience. You are aware of that. All the open bugs now present are<br>
are not in our control - Browser bugs and Fonts bug, we disabled them<br>
for time being.<br>
<br>
Please be constructive and help us as you were doing. We deserve some<br>
appreciation for what we are doing.<br>
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<br>
-Santhosh<br>
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