[Wikimedia-l] Rules of engagement for companies in Swedish, Norwegian, Finnish, Danish?

Fred Bauder fredbaud at fairpoint.net
Mon Oct 21 19:13:36 UTC 2013


> I'm not sure. Someone who posts deficient article that they obviously
> have
> a special relationship to, where the language in addition is deficient,
> may
> easily be meet by a deletion request. The difficulty with promoting a
> company in Wikipedia is the promotion part, not the identity of the
> author.
> For a well sourced, well written, well structured article that takes a
> neutral point of view about a clearly relevant subject, I cannot see that
> the identity of the author should make much difference. That said,
> obviously there may be someone who disagrees with me in this.
>
> Hans
>

What you are saying, in practice, is that a major firm that hires a
professional public relations firm that writes the best sort of article,
from the viewpoint of the firm, that could be expected to be acceptable
is OK, but a crude amateur effort by an inexperienced free-lancer is not.
What makes a Wikipedia article better for a firm if serious attention by
a public relations firm is regularly paid to it is rather subtle. The
brights are a little brighter, the dulls a little less boring, and the
pig is cute.

Fred


>
> On 21 October 2013 16:07, David Richfield <davidrichfield at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the quick reply, Hans!  If our representatives would (for
>> example) translate an English company page into Norwegian, and then
>> explain the edits on the talk page, and identify their conflict of
>> interest on their user pages and also the article talk page, would you
>> expect that that would be seen as fair and transparent by the
>> Norwegian Wikipedia community?
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 3:51 PM, Hans A. Rosbach
>> <hans.a.rosbach at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > In no-wp we have a policy that usernames shall be for individuals and
>> thus
>> > typical company usernames are blocked and asked to request change of
>> names.
>> > These users then have no restrictions on which pages to edit. As long
>> as
>> we
>> > don't demand identification of users, restrictions on edits would IMO
>> be
>> > futile anyway.
>> >
>> > Hans A. Rosbach / User:Haros
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On 21 October 2013 15:14, David Richfield <davidrichfield at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi all,
>> >>
>> >> When I'm not editing Wikimedia projects, I work for Mondelez
>> >> International, and our Social Media team has contacted me for advice
>> >> on responsible engagement with Wikipedia.  I know that different
>> >> language projects have different rules on whether company
>> >> representatives should:
>> >>
>> >> * Edit pages directly or only ever edit talk pages
>> >> * Edit under their own names or under company names
>> >>
>> >> What are the rules for the Nordic languages?
>> >>
>> >> Thanks,
>> >>
>> >> David
>> >>
>> >> --
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>> >>
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