[Wikimedia-l] Rules of engagement for companies in Swedish, Norwegian, Finnish, Danish?

Hans A. Rosbach hans.a.rosbach at gmail.com
Mon Oct 21 19:23:36 UTC 2013


Is skewing an article easier if you are good at it? Yes I think it is.

Hans


On 21 October 2013 21:13, Fred Bauder <fredbaud at fairpoint.net> wrote:

> > I'm not sure. Someone who posts deficient article that they obviously
> > have
> > a special relationship to, where the language in addition is deficient,
> > may
> > easily be meet by a deletion request. The difficulty with promoting a
> > company in Wikipedia is the promotion part, not the identity of the
> > author.
> > For a well sourced, well written, well structured article that takes a
> > neutral point of view about a clearly relevant subject, I cannot see that
> > the identity of the author should make much difference. That said,
> > obviously there may be someone who disagrees with me in this.
> >
> > Hans
> >
>
> What you are saying, in practice, is that a major firm that hires a
> professional public relations firm that writes the best sort of article,
> from the viewpoint of the firm, that could be expected to be acceptable
> is OK, but a crude amateur effort by an inexperienced free-lancer is not.
> What makes a Wikipedia article better for a firm if serious attention by
> a public relations firm is regularly paid to it is rather subtle. The
> brights are a little brighter, the dulls a little less boring, and the
> pig is cute.
>
> Fred
>
>
> >
> > On 21 October 2013 16:07, David Richfield <davidrichfield at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Thanks for the quick reply, Hans!  If our representatives would (for
> >> example) translate an English company page into Norwegian, and then
> >> explain the edits on the talk page, and identify their conflict of
> >> interest on their user pages and also the article talk page, would you
> >> expect that that would be seen as fair and transparent by the
> >> Norwegian Wikipedia community?
> >>
> >> On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 3:51 PM, Hans A. Rosbach
> >> <hans.a.rosbach at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > In no-wp we have a policy that usernames shall be for individuals and
> >> thus
> >> > typical company usernames are blocked and asked to request change of
> >> names.
> >> > These users then have no restrictions on which pages to edit. As long
> >> as
> >> we
> >> > don't demand identification of users, restrictions on edits would IMO
> >> be
> >> > futile anyway.
> >> >
> >> > Hans A. Rosbach / User:Haros
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On 21 October 2013 15:14, David Richfield <davidrichfield at gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Hi all,
> >> >>
> >> >> When I'm not editing Wikimedia projects, I work for Mondelez
> >> >> International, and our Social Media team has contacted me for advice
> >> >> on responsible engagement with Wikipedia.  I know that different
> >> >> language projects have different rules on whether company
> >> >> representatives should:
> >> >>
> >> >> * Edit pages directly or only ever edit talk pages
> >> >> * Edit under their own names or under company names
> >> >>
> >> >> What are the rules for the Nordic languages?
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks,
> >> >>
> >> >> David
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> David Richfield
> >> >> [[:en:User:Slashme]]
> >> >> +491723724440
> >> >>
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