[WikiEN-l] Notability in Wikipedia

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WJhonson at aol.com wrote:
>  
> In a message dated 4/28/2009 1:15:09 AM Pacific Daylight Time,  
> doc.wikipedia at ntlworld.com writes:
> 
>> We  have always placed the burden of proof-of-notability on the 
> contributing  
>>  author, not on the rest of the AfD posters.  That's been  true across 
> each  
>> AfD for notability that I've seen.  I  doubt it's going to change.  I  
> did 
>> not create that, it's  just the way it is.
>>  
>> Will Johnson
> 
> I disagree. To  delete requires a consensus to delete. That is, a 
> consensus of people  believe the article has no place on wikipedia.>>
> 
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> You can't disagree, because I never said what you are disagreeing to.
> Read what I said more clearly and you will see that I'm not speaking about  
> a consensus, nor a lack of consensus.  I'm not talking about deletion, nor  
> keeping.  I'm speaking of *who* has the burden of proof to show  
> "notability", or the lack of notability.  The author? Or everyone  else?  We've always 
> recognized that it's the contributing author who has  that burden-of-proof.
>  
> Will Johnson
>  
>  

Oh, I assure you I can disagree. I can disagree with almost anything.

I disagree that the burden of proof is on the contributing author. The 
burden is on those wishing to delete something to achieve a consensus to 
delete. What level of "evidence" or "proof" will convince a consensus of 
wikipedians is up to the wikipedians participating. I suspect many 
people will be satisfied by different things.