[WikiEN-l] The admin problem

Jon thagudearbh at yahoo.co.uk
Thu Mar 2 17:36:51 UTC 2006


Stop wikilawyering.
   
  It was clear that these images were going to go. That's the important thing.
   
  Ok, TBSDY cut to the chase - but he got the job done. "Process" is not some god to be bowed down to. Now, ok, if TBSDY deleted images wholesale where there was a realistic possibility that after going through a fuller process they would have stayed, then there would be some point in asking him not to do the same thing in the future  - and even then you shouldn't rake him over the coals for actions clearly conducted in good faith. However, in this case, noting this email, there is no doubt - the images were doomed and the only action worth doing in response is thanking TBSDY for carry out the administrative chore.
   
  Jon
   
   
  

Fastfission <fastfission at gmail.com> wrote:
  The TBSDY e-mail has been posted at the RFC with Jimbo's permission,
so I don't think it's wrong to repost it here.

From: Jimmy Wales Mailed-By: wikia.com
To: Arbitration Committee mailing list 
Cc: ta.bu.shi.da.yu at gmail.com, Tony Sidaway
Date: Feb 19, 2006 7:42 AM
Subject: Re: [Arbcom-l] ta_bu_shi_da_yu believes over 200 Time
magazine covers pose a serious liability and bad PR
threat

I'd like to see a bulk AfD on these things. And if the answer is wrong,
then I'll personally delete them anyway and use this as a good example
of what's broken about AfD.


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I think my interpretation is correct that this did not give TBSDY
authority to speedy the images. As we know, AFD is about the polar
opposite of speedying, for better or worse.

FF


On 3/2/06, Justin Cormack wrote:
> On Thu, 2006-03-02 at 11:58 -0500, Fastfission wrote:
> > Here are my claims simplified:
> > 1. TBSDY was speedying large amounts of images labeled as "fair use"
> > as being copyvios.
> > 2. There are no CSD provisions for speedying images as copyvios (or at
> > least, were not any at the time he was doing this; I haven't checked
> > them since then).
> > 3. TBSDY claimed that Jimbo gave him the right to speedy images as
> > copyvios in a private e-mail.
> > 4. TBSDY produced the e-mail, and it said that TBSDY could nominate
> > the images for deletion (the proper policy), and if that failed, Jimbo
> > might decide to speedy them. It did not say TBSDY could speedy images,
> > or any other admin, as copyvios.
> >
> > My conclusions: TBSDY did not, in fact, have the authority to speedy
> > images as copyvios, and was acting against policy. I'm perfectly happy
> > to assume good faith on this and assume he misunderstood Jimbo's
> > e-mail or something like that -- nothing dishonest is posited.
>
> Seems like an amount of misunderstanding.
>
> Can we see the email?
>
> Justinc
>
>
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