[WikiEN-l] MONGO and the ArbCom

[Parker Peters]

Okay, I'll weigh in on this. It took me three hours to look through
everything, but what the hey. I left Wikipedia because none of you would do
jack shit about real abusive administrators and real abusive POV-pushing
groups who twist and stretch policy in order to hurt others, but even I
think this is over the top.

Did MONGO misuse his admin tools? I have to say yes. Did he do so in a way
that was necessarily malicious? I don't necessarily think so. What I think
MONGO screwed up on is in relation to conflict of interest.

I'd be much happier if Arbcom had given MONGO some simple terms - say, a
requirement that he not use his admin powers in relation to any page he has
edited in a certain time frame.

But then again, yesterday I saw a normal user try to report another editor
for trolling (that is to say, making false edit summaries during an edit
conflict) and immediately get piled upon by the other editor's friends, and
now that they have been blocked for more than 3 days and had their talkpage
locked by admins who turned out to be the other editor's friends, because
when the admin friends started in their harassment campaign, the user
flailed about in a fashion very similar to how MONGO did.

Parker


On 12/12/06, Gregory Maxwell <gmaxwell at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On 12/12/06, Puppy <puppy at killerchihuahua.com> wrote:
> > Is desysopping the answer? Is it appropriate to desysop, generally
> > reserved for abuses of /admin/ functions,  for incivility, which is an
> > /editor/ action, and usually is addressed with either a caution or
> > probation?
> >
> > Guy suggests a month long enforced break, which seems reasonable to me.
>
> I do think it's reasonable and expected to hold admins to a higher
> civility standard. This used to be consensus, has that changed? I hope
> not...
>
> But in any case, the arbcom found that MONGO did abuse his admin
> functions:
>
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Seabhcan/Proposed_decision#MONGO_misuses_his_admin_tools
>
> I'm completely ignorant to the case other than what I've read on the
> page, but it would seem to me that some of the support emails here are
> operating in an even greater information vacuum.
>
> After reviewing the material there, I really do believe we're doing
> MONGO a favor although it might be too late in any case...  There have
> been many "Sole defenders of the  Wiki" who completely burned out when
> they realized that the community, in fact, would not let them get away
> with anything, such as RickK.
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