[Foundation-l] Chapters

[Risker]

On 30 August 2011 11:09, Bence Damokos <bdamokos at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 5:01 PM, Risker <risker.wp at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > It does strike me as odd that, given the legendary openness of
> > Wikimedia-related projects and activities, at least the basic provisions
> of
> > the chapter agreement isn't widely accessible. It would be very
> > demotivating
> > for groups to come together, gather momentum to move toward a more formal
> > relationship with the WMF, and then find out that their ability to form a
> > chapter is proscribed by conflicts between local requirements and the WMF
> > standard chapter agreement.  While I recognize that such a document can't
> > really be crowd-sourced, it might be helpful to at least have it publicly
> > available for reading. That is, unless each chapter agreement is
> > significantly customized for the needs of the individual chapters.
> >
>
> Hi Risker,
>
> The chapter agreement should be public. There is a version of it at
>
> http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Agreement_between_chapters_and_Wikimedia_Foundation
> ,
> which might be slightly out of sync with a version on an internal wiki;
> most
> chapters sign the exact same agreement (
> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Chapter_agreements).
>
> The fundraising agreement that the WMF now seems to back out of should also
> be public: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fundraising_agreement.
>
> The proposed grant agreement is currently on an internal wiki and not
> public.
>
>
Thanks, Bence.  Given that the document that is creating so much fuss is
*not* publicly available, and there are many references to "current"
agreements without links to the version that particular chapter signed or
authorized, I'd say it's still pretty hard for those who aren't actively
involved in the administration of chapters to really know what is going on.
The chapters agreement itself doesn't contain several of the points that are
so controversial in this thread, for example.

Risker/Anne