Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikitech-l Digest, Vol 166, Issue 18

Send Wikitech-l mailing list submissions to wikitech-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to wikitech-l-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org You can reach the person managing the list at wikitech-l-owner(a)lists.wikimedia.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Wikitech-l digest..." Today's Topics: 1. logstash down on deployment-prep (Guillaume Lederrey) 2. Re: logstash down on deployment-prep (Guillaume Lederrey) 3. Re: Tech Talk: Wikimedia Foundation Technology and Product Q&A Session #2 (Srishti Sethi) 4. RFC discussion on Wednesday: Compacting the Revision table (Daniel Kinzler) 5. Re: Tech Talk: Wikimedia Foundation Technology and Product Q&A Session #2 (Srishti Sethi) 6. Global language preference (Petr Bena) 7. Re: Global language preference (Martin Urbanec) 8. Re: Global language preference (Amir E. Aharoni) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 9 May 2017 16:49:12 +0200 From: Guillaume Lederrey &lt;glederrey(a)wikimedia.org&gt; To: Wikimedia developers &lt;wikitech-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org&gt; Subject: [Wikitech-l] logstash down on deployment-prep Message-ID: &lt;CA+yRHsWnLv8TjRRfyPfXFsnGSaStW8VQPP4Yue6nRrog2sVRbQ(a)mail.gmailail. com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hello all! While aligning elasticsearch / logstash / kibana versions on deployment-logstash2, I am running into some issues. Logstash does not want to restart... This is tracked on phabricator [1], I'll let you know as soon as I know what is going on... [1] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T163709 Have fun! Guillaume -- Guillaume Lederrey Operations Engineer, Discovery Wikimedia Foundation UTC+2 / CEST ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 9 May 2017 17:26:58 +0200 From: Guillaume Lederrey &lt;glederrey(a)wikimedia.org&gt; To: Wikimedia developers &lt;wikitech-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org&gt; Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] logstash down on deployment-prep Message-ID: <CA+yRHsXFXi4s6emKSq4Lf6us_LQf50D_H6KeZec5dLtc3O+x1g@ mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 logstash is up and running again on deployment-prep. For those who are interested, the logstash plugins that we used were deployed correctly, present on disk, but not reloaded by logstash. The reloading part is triggered by puppet [1], but that code does not seem to be robust enough. Logstash was down and logs were not collected between ~12:40 and 15:15 UTC. All my apologises for this inconvenience.... [1] https://github.com/wikimedia/puppet/blob/production/ modules/logstash/manifests/init.pp#L35-L42 On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 4:49 PM, Guillaume Lederrey &lt;glederrey(a)wikimedia.org&gt; wrote: -- Guillaume Lederrey Operations Engineer, Discovery Wikimedia Foundation UTC+2 / CEST ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Tue, 9 May 2017 09:05:10 -0700 From: Srishti Sethi &lt;ssethi(a)wikimedia.org&gt; To: Wikimedia developers &lt;wikitech-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org&gt;rg>, Wikimedia Mailing List &lt;wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org&gt; Cc: Megan Neisler &lt;mneisler(a)wikimedia.org&gt; Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] Tech Talk: Wikimedia Foundation Technology and Product Q&A Session #2 Message-ID: <CANt0bJHYJb3RSmxCCtPTkxEmhaKR4tLGMkw+cKQCrq-5aOKWcw@mail. gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 REMINDER: This talk starts in 1 hour. On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 3:54 PM, Srishti Sethi &lt;ssethi(a)wikimedia.org&gt; wrote: -- Srishti Sethi Developer Advocate Technical Collaboration team Wikimedia Foundation https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:SSethi_(WMF) ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Tue, 9 May 2017 19:37:07 +0200 From: Daniel Kinzler &lt;daniel.kinzler(a)wikimedia.de&gt; To: wikitech-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org, Brion Vibber &lt;bvibber(a)wikimedia.org&gt; Subject: [Wikitech-l] RFC discussion on Wednesday: Compacting the Revision table Message-ID: &lt;7673e08f-363b-b020-a2dc-72c7ab4d60ac(a)wikimedia.de&gt; Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 This is a reminder of Wednesday's RFC discussion about Compacting the Revision Table[1]. This RFC also touches upon aspects of Multi-Content Revisions[2] and is related to the need for storing longer revision comments[3], which we discussed last week. There is a big schema change up for review, to showcase what exactly is planned [4]. The discussion will take place on the #wikimedia-office channel on Freenode, on Wednesday May 10, at 21:00 UTC (2pm PDT, 23:00 CEST). Depending on the outcome of this discussion, another meeting about this topic may be scheduled for a later date, at a different time, to accommodate people in other time zones. [1] <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T161671> [2] <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T107595> [3] <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T153333> [4] <https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/350097/> -- Daniel Kinzler Principal Platform Engineer Wikimedia Deutschland Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Tue, 9 May 2017 11:52:39 -0700 From: Srishti Sethi &lt;ssethi(a)wikimedia.org&gt; To: Wikimedia developers &lt;wikitech-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org&gt;rg>, Wikimedia Mailing List &lt;wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org&gt; Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] Tech Talk: Wikimedia Foundation Technology and Product Q&A Session #2 Message-ID: <CANt0bJEQge5GR5s5Zg_Mg7Axxv9JXOeUrUzM7SsvS1sOdze0Y A(a)mail.gmail.com&gt; Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Thanks everyone for coming! Here is the link to the YouTube video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4kfgU9SZcg Enjoy! On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 9:05 AM, Srishti Sethi &lt;ssethi(a)wikimedia.org&gt; wrote: v=Q4kfgU9SZcg -- Srishti Sethi Developer Advocate Technical Collaboration team Wikimedia Foundation https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:SSethi_(WMF) ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Wed, 10 May 2017 09:19:35 +0200 From: Petr Bena &lt;benapetr(a)gmail.com&gt; To: Wikimedia developers &lt;wikitech-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org&gt; Subject: [Wikitech-l] Global language preference Message-ID: &lt;CA+4EQ5cyfSOkbUurm50nO9X4EWjx9A27m=2pcgB+8YXM72Tptw(a)mail.gmailail. com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hi all, We have central auth, global user pages and stuff like that, do we have some kind of global preferences too? So that one could set interface language to English and have it like that on every single project they work on? I don't really see a need to have different projects with different interface language but if there was a need for this we could probably make it possible to override (like add language "Same as meta" which would be default option, or something of that kind). Maybe something that makes this possible already exists but I am not aware of that. ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Wed, 10 May 2017 07:26:02 +0000 From: Martin Urbanec &lt;martin.urbanec(a)wikimedia.cz&gt; To: Wikimedia developers &lt;wikitech-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org&gt; Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] Global language preference Message-ID: <CAOCih8KRGe8Bm7O6Q0eqcp--RT8n5OU4qNHLG3avpXoMVPNm_Q@ mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hi Petr, an user can archieve that aim using global script and then viewing all projects they want to change. AFAIK this was requested in the community wishlist. Martin st 10. 5. 2017 v 9:20 odesílatel Petr Bena &lt;benapetr(a)gmail.com&gt; napsal: ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Wed, 10 May 2017 10:36:03 +0300 From: "Amir E. Aharoni" &lt;amir.aharoni(a)mail.huji.ac.il&gt; To: Wikimedia developers &lt;wikitech-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org&gt; Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] Global language preference Message-ID: <CACtNa8uaLmAyTij0E4agMhdv+zxVCuaB4Jah4qGcqd99yenSWw@ mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 There's an RFC about that: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/ Global_user_preferences A lot of things that should be global aren't global. Global user accounts are really global user names, passwords, and email addresses, and not much else. User ids are not quite global—there is a central id, but also a local id, and my impression is that the local id is used more often. E.g., for analyzing contribution listing and statistics, the local id is needed. Other things I can immediately think of that should be global and aren't: Contribution listings, cookies, watchlists. And if we move away from user accounts and identities, then also gadgets and templates (and of course modules). (If I could have only one of all of those things, I'd vote for global templates without any hesitation.) Global notifications (a.k.a. Echo) are available, which is nice. Global user pages and common.js and common.css are possible, which is also nice. Some people use global js to auto-set preferences in all wikis upon opening them, which is a rather awful hack, but it does show that global preferences are in demand. -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com ‪“We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬ 2017-05-10 10:19 GMT+03:00 Petr Bena &lt;benapetr(a)gmail.com&gt;om>: ------------------------------ Subject: Digest Footer _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ------------------------------ End of Wikitech-l Digest, Vol 166, Issue 18 *******************************************