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1. logstash down on deployment-prep (Guillaume Lederrey)
2. Re: logstash down on deployment-prep (Guillaume Lederrey)
3. Re: Tech Talk: Wikimedia Foundation Technology and Product
Q&A Session #2 (Srishti Sethi)
4. RFC discussion on Wednesday: Compacting the Revision table
(Daniel Kinzler)
5. Re: Tech Talk: Wikimedia Foundation Technology and Product
Q&A Session #2 (Srishti Sethi)
6. Global language preference (Petr Bena)
7. Re: Global language preference (Martin Urbanec)
8. Re: Global language preference (Amir E. Aharoni)
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 9 May 2017 16:49:12 +0200
From: Guillaume Lederrey <glederrey(a)wikimedia.org>
To: Wikimedia developers <wikitech-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
Subject: [Wikitech-l] logstash down on deployment-prep
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Hello all!
While aligning elasticsearch / logstash / kibana versions on
deployment-logstash2, I am running into some issues. Logstash does not
want to restart...
This is tracked on phabricator [1], I'll let you know as soon as I
know what is going on...
[1]
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T163709
Have fun!
Guillaume
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 9 May 2017 17:26:58 +0200
From: Guillaume Lederrey <glederrey(a)wikimedia.org>
To: Wikimedia developers <wikitech-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] logstash down on deployment-prep
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logstash is up and running again on deployment-prep. For those who are
interested, the logstash plugins that we used were deployed correctly,
present on disk, but not reloaded by logstash. The reloading part is
triggered by puppet [1], but that code does not seem to be robust
enough.
Logstash was down and logs were not collected between ~12:40 and 15:15 UTC.
All my apologises for this inconvenience....
[1]
https://github.com/wikimedia/puppet/blob/production/
modules/logstash/manifests/init.pp#L35-L42
On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 4:49 PM, Guillaume Lederrey
<glederrey(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
Hello all!
While aligning elasticsearch / logstash / kibana versions on
deployment-logstash2, I am running into some issues. Logstash does not
want to restart...
This is tracked on phabricator [1], I'll let you know as soon as I
know what is going on...
[1]
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T163709
Have fun!
Guillaume
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Operations Engineer, Discovery
Wikimedia Foundation
UTC+2 / CEST
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Operations Engineer, Discovery
Wikimedia Foundation
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 9 May 2017 09:05:10 -0700
From: Srishti Sethi <ssethi(a)wikimedia.org>
To: Wikimedia developers <wikitech-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>rg>, Wikimedia
Mailing List <wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
Cc: Megan Neisler <mneisler(a)wikimedia.org>
Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] Tech Talk: Wikimedia Foundation Technology
and Product Q&A Session #2
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REMINDER: This talk starts in 1 hour.
On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 3:54 PM, Srishti Sethi <ssethi(a)wikimedia.org>
wrote:
Hello everyone,
Please join us for the Wikimedia Foundation Technology and Product Q&A
Session #2 by Victoria Coleman (CTO) and Toby Negrin (Interim VP of
Product) on May 9, 2017, at 17:00 UTC via YouTube live.
Link to live YouTube stream:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4kfgU9SZcg
IRC channel for questions/discussion: #wikimedia-office
More details:
This talk is a follow-up of the Wikimedia Developer Summit session
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0JdtauJkKs> and will address the next
set of questions gathered via a voting survey for the summit:
-
For WMF dev teams, what is the right balance between pushing own work
versus seeking and supporting volunteer contributors?
-
Do we have a plan to bring our developer documentation to the level of
a top Internet website, a major free software project?
-
How can volunteers bring ideas and influence the WMF annual plans and
quarterly goals? (Currently, when plans are published it's too late)
-
What vision do you see for MediaWiki and volunteer developers five
years from now?
Looking forward to your presence!
Best,
Srishti
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 9 May 2017 19:37:07 +0200
From: Daniel Kinzler <daniel.kinzler(a)wikimedia.de>
To: wikitech-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org, Brion Vibber
<bvibber(a)wikimedia.org>
Subject: [Wikitech-l] RFC discussion on Wednesday: Compacting the
Revision table
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This is a reminder of Wednesday's RFC discussion about Compacting the
Revision
Table[1]. This RFC also touches upon aspects of Multi-Content Revisions[2]
and
is related to the need for storing longer revision comments[3], which we
discussed last week.
There is a big schema change up for review, to showcase what exactly is
planned [4].
The discussion will take place on the #wikimedia-office channel on
Freenode, on
Wednesday May 10, at 21:00 UTC (2pm PDT, 23:00 CEST). Depending on the
outcome
of this discussion, another meeting about this topic may be scheduled for a
later date, at a different time, to accommodate people in other time zones.
[1] <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T161671>
[2] <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T107595>
[3] <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T153333>
[4] <https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/350097/>
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 9 May 2017 11:52:39 -0700
From: Srishti Sethi <ssethi(a)wikimedia.org>
To: Wikimedia developers <wikitech-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>rg>, Wikimedia
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Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] Tech Talk: Wikimedia Foundation Technology
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Thanks everyone for coming! Here is the link to the YouTube video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4kfgU9SZcg
Enjoy!
On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 9:05 AM, Srishti Sethi <ssethi(a)wikimedia.org>
wrote:
REMINDER: This talk starts in 1 hour.
On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 3:54 PM, Srishti Sethi <ssethi(a)wikimedia.org>
wrote:
> Hello everyone,
>
> Please join us for the Wikimedia Foundation Technology and Product Q&A
> Session #2 by Victoria Coleman (CTO) and Toby Negrin (Interim VP of
> Product) on May 9, 2017, at 17:00 UTC via YouTube live.
>
> Link to live YouTube stream:
https://www.youtube.com/watch? v=Q4kfgU9SZcg
IRC channel for questions/discussion: #wikimedia-office
More details:
This talk is a follow-up of the Wikimedia Developer Summit session
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0JdtauJkKs> and will address the next
set of questions gathered via a voting survey for the summit:
-
For WMF dev teams, what is the right balance between pushing own work
versus seeking and supporting volunteer contributors?
-
Do we have a plan to bring our developer documentation to the level
of a top Internet website, a major free software project?
-
How can volunteers bring ideas and influence the WMF annual plans and
quarterly goals? (Currently, when plans are published it's too late)
-
What vision do you see for MediaWiki and volunteer developers five
years from now?
Looking forward to your presence!
Best,
Srishti
--
Srishti Sethi
Developer Advocate
Technical Collaboration team
Wikimedia Foundation
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:SSethi_(WMF)
--
Srishti Sethi
Developer Advocate
Technical Collaboration team
Wikimedia Foundation
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:SSethi_(WMF)
--
Srishti Sethi
Developer Advocate
Technical Collaboration team
Wikimedia Foundation
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:SSethi_(WMF)
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 10 May 2017 09:19:35 +0200
From: Petr Bena <benapetr(a)gmail.com>
To: Wikimedia developers <wikitech-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
Subject: [Wikitech-l] Global language preference
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Hi all,
We have central auth, global user pages and stuff like that, do we
have some kind of global preferences too? So that one could set
interface language to English and have it like that on every single
project they work on?
I don't really see a need to have different projects with different
interface language but if there was a need for this we could probably
make it possible to override (like add language "Same as meta" which
would be default option, or something of that kind).
Maybe something that makes this possible already exists but I am not
aware of that.
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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 10 May 2017 07:26:02 +0000
From: Martin Urbanec <martin.urbanec(a)wikimedia.cz>
To: Wikimedia developers <wikitech-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] Global language preference
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Hi Petr,
an user can archieve that aim using global script and then viewing all
projects they want to change. AFAIK this was requested in the community
wishlist.
Martin
st 10. 5. 2017 v 9:20 odesílatel Petr Bena <benapetr(a)gmail.com> napsal:
Hi all,
We have central auth, global user pages and stuff like that, do we
have some kind of global preferences too? So that one could set
interface language to English and have it like that on every single
project they work on?
I don't really see a need to have different projects with different
interface language but if there was a need for this we could probably
make it possible to override (like add language "Same as meta" which
would be default option, or something of that kind).
Maybe something that makes this possible already exists but I am not
aware of that.
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Date: Wed, 10 May 2017 10:36:03 +0300
From: "Amir E. Aharoni" <amir.aharoni(a)mail.huji.ac.il>
To: Wikimedia developers <wikitech-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] Global language preference
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There's an RFC about that:
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/
Global_user_preferences
A lot of things that should be global aren't global.
Global user accounts are really global user names, passwords, and email
addresses, and not much else. User ids are not quite global—there is a
central id, but also a local id, and my impression is that the local id is
used more often. E.g., for analyzing contribution listing and statistics,
the local id is needed.
Other things I can immediately think of that should be global and aren't:
Contribution listings, cookies, watchlists. And if we move away from user
accounts and identities, then also gadgets and templates (and of course
modules). (If I could have only one of all of those things, I'd vote for
global templates without any hesitation.)
Global notifications (a.k.a. Echo) are available, which is nice. Global
user pages and common.js and common.css are possible, which is also nice.
Some people use global js to auto-set preferences in all wikis upon opening
them, which is a rather awful hack, but it does show that global
preferences are in demand.
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2017-05-10 10:19 GMT+03:00 Petr Bena <benapetr(a)gmail.com>om>:
Hi all,
We have central auth, global user pages and stuff like that, do we
have some kind of global preferences too? So that one could set
interface language to English and have it like that on every single
project they work on?
I don't really see a need to have different projects with different
interface language but if there was a need for this we could probably
make it possible to override (like add language "Same as meta" which
would be default option, or something of that kind).
Maybe something that makes this possible already exists but I am not
aware of that.
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