Billinghurst,
That might work for me, with a Login.
But does this also work for random readers, who don't have a login?
Who don't know, that there are preferences (and especially what can be
done with them?)>
But more important: please don't (just) focus in namespaces for every
Wikisource-Project. You might loose at least de.WS. I can't see
changing something, that works fine for this project... Especially
not to change a system, that is quite different, from what they have
now. That is all I am asking for. de.ws is working with templates to
differ, not with namespaces.>
for instance Johann Wolfgang von Goethe: [1]
Goethe was an author, but there are also works about Goethe. In de.ws
portal-page and author-page about Geothe are merged in one. There is
no difference. Don't expect something else.>
Best, Anika
2017-11-02 9:07 GMT+01:00 billinghurst <billinghurstwiki(a)gmail.com>om>:
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Anika,
That is matter long resolved in my opinion with the change in the
default search namespaces that the communities made, and similarly
with our redefining content namespaces. While main namespace will
always take preference to the other nss in results, they show up
pretty quickly where you have an intitle: match.>>
At enWS I would say that we lost more searches to subpages, so with
the ability to change your search preferences with subphrase matches,
much of that is addressed (though it is not the default search
configuration at this point).>>
The completion suggester[2] is an algorithm for search suggestions
with better typo correction and search relevance.>>
Default (recommended)
Corrects up to two typos. Resolves close redirects.
Subphrase matching (recommended for longer page titles)
Corrects up to two typos. Resolves close redirects. Matches subphrase
in titles.>>
Strict mode (advanced)
No typo correction. No accent folding. Strict matching.
Redirect mode (advanced)
No typo correction. Resolves close redirects.
Redirect mode with subphrase matching (advanced)
No typo correction. Resolves close redirects. Matches subphrase in
titles.>>
Regards, Billinghurst
------ Original Message ------
From: "Anika Born" <WikiAnika(a)wikipedia.de>
To: "discussion list for Wikisource, the free library" <wikisource-
l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>>>
Sent: 2/11/2017 6:37:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Wikisource-l] wikisource "work" pages or "multiple
editions" pages>>
2017-11-01 16:40 GMT+01:00 Nicolas VIGNERON
<vigneron.nicolas@gmail.com>:>>>>
From afar, the Opera: pages on it.ws are very close to the pages
with the template {{Éditions}} on fr.ws or the template
{{Versions}} on en.ws (and similar system elsewhere).>>>>
The main difference is having a separate namespace A second major
difference is that the templates on fr.ws and en.ws are very light
while the {{Opera}} template took data from Wikidata (but that's an
independent problem, it's possible to change the {{Éditions}} or
{{Versions}} templates to do exactly the same thing without having
a specific namespace).>>>>
I'm almost convinced too, but in order to create a new namespace on
a project you have to convinced the local community. That's why I'm
still playing the Devil's advocate role and want to learn about the
inconvenients of this system>>>
A reason why there are no different
namespaces for work-, edition-,
author-, list- and other portal pages in de.ws is the ws-search.
When you are looking for "Goethe" in the (simple) search (as readers
may do) on WS, you might get to>>> *
https://de.wikisource.org/wiki/Tafellied,_zu_Goethe%E2%80%99s_Geburtstage
but not to>>> *
https://de.wikisource.org/wiki/Johann_Wolfgang_von_Goethe[3]
with
all the interesting stuff, if that page was in another
namespace...>>>
So there was the desition to use templates (and categories) for
these different kind of pages:
https://de.wikisource.org/wiki/Wikisource:Seiten_zu_Autoren,_Texten,_Themen…
I think German Wikisource Community won't give this up and switch to
using multiple namespaces (besides Wikisource: and Page:namespace).>>>
Best
Anika
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