Hi mike,
many of us experienced and still experience challenges with community
outreach in regions where digital literacy is not the same level known from
home. But the ones there in the beginning of wikipedia know how long it
took to get all the rules in place. People had a chance to influence the
rules and grow with them.
Today is a completely different beast. While the wikimedia beginners
attitude did not change, there are numerous people facing the newbies with
so much experience, and there are paid persons beeing able to dedicate all
their attention to special cases, and shut new people down or out. Its good
that these people do exist, as long this growing into it, imperfections
allowed.
Therefor this was imo handled properly. Because wmuk is now the second
chapter and community supporting the Ghana movement. Because the support
did not patronize the Ghana community but was on an advisory level, letting
the people there grow and see for themselves. Actively involve the Ghana
community might have been better than trusting some of them are subscribed
to the wmuk list though. But too much perfection has two undesirable
effects: it gives no chance to learn. And it demoralizes volunteers which
we than loose forever.
Up to now the Ghana community has been exemplary imo. In the years i
participated a little in the discussions i saw A good feeling for what is
important: edit or write software. A good feeling for conflicts of
interest. A good feeling for usage of money. A nicely implemented strategy
to slowly grow, involving different and new persons on the way. I saw
things which i d handled differently, but hey, it is their community, and
they need to be happy in it.
You can be pretty sure that this involvement is another cornerstone in the
experience Ghana wikimedia people make, and will put to use later on.
So, wmuk, do it again, many thanks for this involvement.
Rupert
Am 01.04.2014 00:04 schrieb "Michael Peel"
<michael.peel(a)manchester.ac.uk>uk>:
This strikes me as an excuse rather than a reason.
Fæ's questions/points
here don't seem to have been answered. :-(
Thanks,
Mike
On 31 Mar 2014, at 08:10, Jon Davies <jon.davies(a)wikimedia.org.uk> wrote:
Apologies for delay in replying but I have been
away.
As previously stated our relationship as a chapter in this isntance is
with Kwaku
as a volunteer.
We organised an editathon last year with BTWSC/BBM as you know. Not
funding was
involved.
And for those who may be interested my 'private' email was at the
request
of Kwaku asking Fae to contact him directly to have any questions
answered and including his contact details.
On 27 March 2014 14:12, Fæ <faewik(a)gmail.com> wrote:
After a week of silence on basic questions, in response to a different
volunteer, the UK chapter has confirmed that it is supporting the
BritishBlackMusic.com event in Ghana with money and official
merchandising. The precise amount has not been specified.[1] It was
not clear to me that the event was in Ghana rather than the UK, until
another volunteer found an Eventbrite page with details. This was
apparently unknown to the UK Chapter as no mention was made of it when
promoting the event.[3]
In the light of the fact that Kwaku is making public presentations
officially supported by Wikimedia UK, I have raised Kwaku's COI issues
on the English Wikipedia noticeboard so that he can be advised by
project volunteers as to policy and best practice.[2] Since creating
his account on the English Wikipedia ten months ago, Kwaku has made a
total of 10 edits with several others being deleted, apparently due to
them promoting his organization, some remaining edits promote his
writing for Billboard.[4]
Kwaku was funded by Wikimedia UK last year with a full scholarship for
a weekend in Berlin to take part in a Wikimedia Conference, the amount
of the charity's money this cost has not been made public.
With regard to Jon Davies' email to this thread that BBM are supported
by Lottery Funding, this appears an exaggeration of the facts. I have
had a response from the Brent Archives, a named 2006 project partner,
who confirmed the project happened but were unable to produce a
report; they took no responsibility for the funds. After an interim
reply, am waiting on a full response from the Heritage Lottery Fund
(HLF). A HLF project was funded 8 years ago in 2006 with BTWSC named
as running the project, intended to produce a guide. There is no
evidence of any lottery funding for BTWSC since that date, the BBM
appears to have never been the recipient of lottery funding.
No evidence has been found that BTWSC or BBM are registered
organizations, consequently it is unlikely that financial accounts
have ever been published or put on record.
Note, I was privately emailed by Jon Davies a few days ago but no
additional information was provided at that time.
Link
1.
2.
http://www.lottery.culture.gov.uk/GrantDetails.aspx?ID=YH-05-01416&DBID…
3.
http://web.archive.org/web/20140327135842/http://www.eventbrite.com/e/talki…
4.
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Conflict_of_interest/N…
On 20 March 2014 13:18, Fæ <faewik(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On 20 March 2014 11:49, Fæ <faewik(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 20 March 2014 11:31, Jon Davies <jon.davies(a)wikimedia.org.uk>
wrote:
> We felt that they were a suitable partner for an
editathon.
...
I have checked with Companies House. There are no registered companies
that relate to:
* British Black Music (run by Kwaku)
* BtWsc or MusicWrite Plus (run by K Kaywrite)
I have confirmed with the Department for Culture Media & Sport, that
eight years ago (2006) a lottery grant of £35,000 was paid for the
Brent Black Music History Project. This project was in partnership
with Brent Archives. It is not yet clear which legal organization
received the funds, was responsible for reporting on the project
outcomes or publishing financial accounts for the monies. As an unpaid
volunteer for Wikimedia UK with no authority, I have written to Brent
Archives and the Heritage Lottery Fund for confirmation and any
available reports.
Fae
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