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Today's Topics:
1. Wikimania 2014: On journalism (brian.mcneil(a)wikinewsie.org)
2. Re: Wikimania 2014: On journalism (Toni Sant)
3. Re: Wikimania 2014: On journalism (Jonathan Cardy)
4. Wikimedia UK monthly report for July - call for content
(Stevie Benton)
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Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 02:22:07 -0400
From: brian.mcneil(a)wikinewsie.org
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Subject: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimania 2014: On journalism
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We're looking a year ahead, so we should have plenty of time to sort
things out. But, the UK has some particularly-talented Wikinewsies
(I'm looking at Iain Macdonald, Tom Morris and Paul Williams in
particular).
It would be short-sighted, in the extreme, not to ask the UK-resident
Wikinewsies to get involved. Given the direction I've seen Paul
heading off in (to Wikinews' great loss) I suspect he would make a
great 'Head of Broadcasting' for next year's Wikimania; and, with
Wikimedia UK's support, could help make sure Wikimania 2014 is the
'most-online' annual conference to-date. [All sessions webcast live,
all recordings thereof online faster than the BBC does with iPlayer.]
The major snag for me, a Wikinewsie in Edinburgh, is it looks-like
Wikimania 2014 clashes with the Edinburgh Festival and Fringe. (I
already have interest from a local community Radio station, which
might lead to free use of high-end gear, and a few other things
in-the-works).
But, anyone who is planning to travel to the UK for Wikimania should
bear that in-mind!
If you want to come up to The Athens of The North, post-conference,
start looking at those accommodation bookings right now. Otherwise,
you'll be camping somewhere in the vicinity of Arthur's Seat.
Regardless, and no-matter how hard Wikimedia UK tries to promote their
London Wikimania, I can promise you "us lot up in Scotland" will keep
knocking you off the front page when it comes to headlines in the
press. Does anyone else have some 'creative ideas' about Wikimania
2014 having a 'token presence' in Edinburgh? (The Fringe venue I want
to 'hijack' is close-enough to the Edinburgh Uni CS facilities I was
hacking - 25 years ago - that, we could run an armoured fibre straight
into JANET).
It's simply too-good an opportunity to miss. And, where I strongly
agree with the broad-criticisms Jimmy made of mainstream media in his
HK keynote, I know that "the news division of the WMF" (i.e. Wikinews)
could wipe the floor with the Mainstream on the independence debate.
Brian.
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Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 10:16:06 +0100
From: Toni Sant <toni.sant(a)wikimedia.org.uk>
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Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimania 2014: On journalism
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Brian -
Is the fact that Wikimedia UK is currently supporting a Wikimedian in
Residence at the National Library of Scotland of any relevance to
developing your idea?
See
http://blog.wikimedia.org.uk/2013/08/a-month-as-wikimedian-in-residence-at-…
More than this, I'd be very interesting in supporting you and/or any other
volunteers in Scotland (or anywhere in the UK for that matter) to explore
ways to bring journalism students at all levels to Wikinews. I'd be more
than happy to strike up a conversation about this on this mailing list, or
any other way that's appropriate -- there's even room for a possible
roundtable discussion about this at the upcoming EduWiki conference. Just
let me know.
Incidentally, this idea I'm proposing is greatly inspired by the wonderful
work that Dr. Chad Tew, who is an associate professor of journalism at the
University of Southern Indiana. See
http://en-wp.com /wiki/User:Crtew --
it
would be really great if something like this was developed in Scotland
and/or anywhere else in the UK
Kind regards,
Toni
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On 20 August 2013 07:22, <brian.mcneil(a)wikinewsie.org> wrote:
We're looking a year ahead, so we should have
plenty of time to sort
things out. But, the UK has some particularly-talented Wikinewsies (I'm
looking at Iain Macdonald, Tom Morris and Paul Williams in particular).
It would be short-sighted, in the extreme, not to ask the UK-resident
Wikinewsies to get involved. Given the direction I've seen Paul heading
off
in (to Wikinews' great loss) I suspect he
would make a great 'Head of
Broadcasting' for next year's Wikimania; and, with Wikimedia UK's
support,
could help make sure Wikimania 2014 is the
'most-online' annual
conference
to-date. [All sessions webcast live, all
recordings thereof online faster
than the BBC does with iPlayer.]
The major snag for me, a Wikinewsie in Edinburgh, is it looks-like
Wikimania 2014 clashes with the Edinburgh Festival and Fringe. (I already
have interest from a local community Radio station, which might lead to
free use of high-end gear, and a few other things in-the-works).
But, anyone who is planning to travel to the UK for Wikimania should bear
that in-mind!
If you want to come up to The Athens of The North, post-conference, start
looking at those accommodation bookings right now. Otherwise, you'll be
camping somewhere in the vicinity of Arthur's Seat.
Regardless, and no-matter how hard Wikimedia UK tries to promote their
London Wikimania, I can promise you "us lot up in Scotland" will keep
knocking you off the front page when it comes to headlines in the press.
Does anyone else have some 'creative ideas' about Wikimania 2014 having a
'token presence' in Edinburgh? (The Fringe venue I want to 'hijack' is
close-enough to the Edinburgh Uni CS facilities I was hacking - 25 years
ago - that, we could run an armoured fibre straight into JANET).
It's simply too-good an opportunity to miss. And, where I strongly agree
with the broad-criticisms Jimmy made of mainstream media in his HK
keynote,
I know that "the news division of the
WMF" (i.e. Wikinews) could wipe the
floor with the Mainstream on the independence debate.
Brian.
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