Has anyone been in touch with User:jbmurray regarding his use of
Wikipedia in academia?
I know he's not in the UK, but it may be useful to put curious or
interested UK academics in touch with him. I suspect he could highlight
a lot of things to avoid, plus extol the educational virtues of getting
students to contribute.
On Sun, 2011-06-05 at 14:07 +0100, Roger Bamkin wrote:
Tom, WSC
Be Bold if you have time.
@Tom .... would the OU Do this for us? I could see it as a
supplemental module to a number of courses.
regards
Roger
On 3 June 2011 22:11, Thomas Morton <morton.thomas(a)googlemail.com>
wrote:
This is an interesting line of thought.
I think a lot could be done with local experts.
I've been talking to my OU lecturer about this and they strike
me as another good avenue for doing adult/expert education of
Wikipedia.
Tom
On 3 June 2011 16:52, Roger Bamkin <victuallers(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
So we need a lead person or project.
Anything that (in time) would have a broader effect
than a single evening course would I believe get a
good hearing for seed funding/ support
Anyone?
Roger B
On 3 June 2011 14:48, WereSpielChequers
<werespielchequers(a)gmail.com> wrote:
My Mum is active in her local branch of the
University of the third
age, they struck me as a perfect partner for
such an evening course.
Especially if the UK chapter were to offer the
U3A a grant for hiring
in approved Wikipedians to deliver said
course.
But please call it something other than
"creating your own wiki page".
Aside from winding up the deletionists, that
risks letting people
think they own a page, or that they can create
a page about them. Your
hobby/profession/neighbourhood and Wikipedia
would be OK, someone else
will I hope come up with something snazzier.
But this definitely has legs.
We could also make use of a photographers
version to explain commons
to local photography clubs.
WereSpielChequers
On 1 June 2011 22:36, Roger Bamkin
<victuallers(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Two minor threads: Martin Poulter and I
discussed how we could put together
a teaching plan so that someone like
yourself could organise an enevening
course in "creating your own wiki page"
...
not sure whether Martin made any
progress. I know he was investigating ... I
suspect there are a lot of
people who would like to put their local
history work into Wikipedia ... if
we just explained it and demo ed it at the
same time.
Other thread. I teach secondary ICT. I'm
planning to
teach intro to Wiki
editting next week. I have still to find
some resources. Any help
appreciated.
regards
Roger B
On 1 June 2011 17:34, Alex Stinson
<stinsoad(a)dukes.jmu.edu> wrote:
>
> There is an education list
>
at
https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/education which appears to
> be one of the better ways to contact people
because not everyone regularly
> checks outreach wiki (including myself). I
invite people to join who want to
> work with Education and Wikimedia projects,
it include a fair number of
> Campus Ambassadors who are doing innovative
stuff at universities as well as
> a number of other people in various
chapters involved in education stuffs,
> Alex
>
> On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 5:29 PM, Thomas
Morton
> <morton.thomas(a)googlemail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hey Alex,
>> Yes a lot of that has been my starting
point. FWIW
there is a lack of
>> content for the younger age groups (say
14-16) which is where my current
>> focus is; the "beginner" guides
are more
suited (at least in my experience
>> of teaching) to older students. I'd
also
like to see some more material on
>> the goals/ideals of Wikipedia (as that
seems a better start point before
>> leaping into account creation :)).
>>
>> Also I noticed that a lot of the focus is
on
editing or contributing
>> Wikipedia. I've approached this from
a
slightly different perspective -
>> which is that most of the kids I will be
talking to aren't interested in
>> writing (and probably aren't yet
capable
of doing so) a Wikipedia article.
>> On the other hand I aim to teach them
about using WP as a resource (and the
>> potential pitfalls) as well as trying to
get them to treat it with respect
>> (i.e. quit the vandalism).
>> Is there a place on Outreach where
discussion of
education/teaching
>> materials is happening?
>> Tom
>> On 1 June 2011 17:15, Alex Stinson
<stinsoad(a)dukes.jmu.edu> wrote:
>>>
>>> "High school professors." Yikes! Meant
teachers, not professors. I
>>> thought I fixed that in a second
read.
Been working with universities for
>>> too long.
>>> Tom, that sounds like something that
could
really use some development
>>> in the way of documented techniques
or
presenting the information. You may
>>> want to check out the stuff on the
Wikimedia Foundation bookshelf project
>>> for materials you can destribute
instead
of making all of them yourself
>>>
(
http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Bookshelf). We also have been developing
>>> a fair amount of stuff at the
education
portal on outreach, though still a
>>> work in progress
(
http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Education). Alot has
>>> already been developed in fairly
professional ways, it just needs to be
>>>> applied in the class room,
>>>> Alex
>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 5:01 PM, Thomas
Morton
>>> <morton.thomas(a)googlemail.com>
wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Chris,
>>>> Yes, that was my impression too - I have
some ideas/proposals to try
>>>> and bring into play but
didn't want to
step on top of an active project that
>>>> I'd missed :P
>>>> I'm based in Lincolnshire.
>>>>
>>>> Alex,
>>>> I've been keeping a close eye on the
Ambassadors project - it looks
>>>> like some great work (yet another
reason
to wish I was a student again :)).
>>>> Expanding that into schools is a
major
project, but one that I think would
>>>> net us some massive gains long
term. I'd
be really interested in hearing
>>>> about your work with the high
school
professors.
>>>> In general:
>>>> I've been interested in education for a
while; I'm a scout leader here
>>>> & my parents have their own
business
doing educational visits to schools on
>>>> the topic of astronomy (so I have
fairly
extensive experience of that sort
>>>> of "business model").
The reason I have
a specific interest now is that I've
>>>> been approached to look at doing
an
evening class on computers and the
>>>> internet at a local secondary
school.
One of the topics I want to cover is
>>>> Wikipedia and WP editing.
>>>> I could put together some teaching
material & release it for others to
>>>> use on an ad-hoc basis, but I
think
there is loads more we could expand into
>>>> if WMUK were behind it - stuff
like
working with the teaching bodies to get
>>>> WP recognised as a resource, and
perhaps
even worked into the curriculum (at
>>>> the very least work with them to
provide
useful material for
>>>> teachers/students about
Wikipedia). In
fact, something like the training
>>>> events Cancer Research people
(but for
teachers) would be really interesting
>>>> to explore.
>>>> Another off-hand idea; it would be great
to try and team up with some
>>>> of the GLAM institutions to run
educational days (i.e. have groups of kids
>>>> turn up to learn about stuff
using local
and Wikipedia content, and to get
>>>> an introduction to Wikipedia).
>>>> And more; we could use WMUK resources to
train up and support Wikipedia
>>>> volunteers who want to go into
the
classroom - because teaching kids can be
>>>> damned hard!
>>>> There's a lot to focus on, but I think
it is one of our most important
>>>> outreach areas in the UK.
>>>> Tom
>>>>
>>>> On 1 June 2011 16:40, Chris Keating
<chriskeatingwiki(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I think it's been hibernating for a
while. I haven't heard it
>>>>> mentioned at all since the
new Board
took office.
>>>>> Of course, if someone wants
to pick up
the ball and run with it, that
>>>>> would be very welcome.
Whereabouts are
you, Tom?
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Chris
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 10:51 AM, Thomas
Morton
>>>>>
<morton.thomas(a)googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hey all,
>>>>>> What is the status of our work with
>>>>>>
schools/education?
http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Initiatives/Schools_project seems
>>>>>> to be a little stagnant,
there are
references to other School interactions
>>>>>> on the Wiki (including a
link to a
hidden office page about the educational
>>>>>> budget).
>>>>>> Is any of this still active?
>>>>>> I only ask because I've been
approached locally to do some in-school
>>>>>> work relating to
Wikipedia and it
occurred to me that this is a major area
>>>>>> we could be focusing on.
>>>>>> I've got a decent amount of experience
working with children, schools
>>>>>> and educators and it
would be great to
contribute that on a wider scale.
>>>>>> If none of those projects
are
particularly active, would anyone be
>>>>>> interested in working on
this
(including volunteering to go into schools and
>>>>>> youth groups)?
>>>>>> Tom / ErrantX
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