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rupert THURNER

20 Jan 2013 20 Jan '13

2:58 p.m.

hi, what is the current status of qrpedia? is at already recommended to use it again in wikiland? rupert.

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Roger Bamkin

20 Jan 20 Jan

4:14 p.m.

Well thats a timely question. A deal was agreed in July with the UK board's representative and their Chief Exec and a contract was drawn up. Before Christmas the UK board said that they wanted to re-negotiate and wanted to create a new contract. As you can iimagine this was disappointing and we did not want to go through that process again. The board has recently agreed that it will endeavor to create a binding deal and they have delegated two board members to restart the process. However, QRpedia remains available for anyone to use and we have projects including those in Australia, France, Spain, Gibraltar, Germany, India, Estonia and Tunisia, These will continue to be supported for ever at no cost. Hope that helps On 20 January 2013 14:58, rupert THURNER <rupert.thurner(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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hi, what is the current status of qrpedia? is at already recommended to use it again in wikiland? rupert. _______________________________________________ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediauk-l(a)wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org

-- Roger Bamkin Victuallers Ltd 01332 702993 0758 2020815 Google+:Victuallers Skype:Victuallers1 Flickr:Victuallers2

rupert THURNER

5:38 p.m.

would it be possible to reveal the main obstacles why this is not yet settled? On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 5:14 PM, Roger Bamkin <victuallers(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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-- Roger Bamkin Victuallers Ltd 01332 702993 0758 2020815 Google+:Victuallers Skype:Victuallers1 Flickr:Victuallers2 _______________________________________________ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediauk-l(a)wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org

Roger Bamkin

6:08 p.m.

We've been ready to get something in order for some time now and the difficulties, which I am not that clear on, seem to be on the WMUK side Roger On 20 January 2013 17:38, rupert THURNER <rupert.thurner(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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would it be possible to reveal the main obstacles why this is not yet settled? On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 5:14 PM, Roger Bamkin <victuallers(a)gmail.com> wrote:

Well thats a timely question. A deal was agreed in July with the UK

board's

representative and their Chief Exec and a contract was drawn up. Before Christmas the UK board said that they wanted to re-negotiate and wanted

create a new contract. As you can iimagine this was disappointing and we

did

not want to go through that process again. The board has recently agreed that it will endeavor to create a binding deal and they have delegated

two

board members to restart the process. However, QRpedia remains available for anyone to use and we have projects including those in Australia, France, Spain, Gibraltar, Germany, India, Estonia and Tunisia, These will continue to be supported for ever at no cost. Hope that helps On 20 January 2013 14:58, rupert THURNER <rupert.thurner(a)gmail.com>

wrote:

_______________________________________________ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediauk-l(a)wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org

-- Roger Bamkin Victuallers Ltd 01332 702993 0758 2020815 Google+:Victuallers Skype:Victuallers1 Flickr:Victuallers2

WereSpielChequers

8:07 p.m.

Hi Roger, thanks for that update. Would I be correct in understanding that you are intending to retain the QRpedia website and presumably brand? If so presumably we will need a new brand for our QR codes and should stop using the term QRpedia except when referring to the site currently used to generate QR codes? WSC On 20 January 2013 18:08, Roger Bamkin <victuallers(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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would it be possible to reveal the main obstacles why this is not yet settled? On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 5:14 PM, Roger Bamkin <victuallers(a)gmail.com> wrote:

Well thats a timely question. A deal was agreed in July with the UK

board's

representative and their Chief Exec and a contract was drawn up. Before Christmas the UK board said that they wanted to re-negotiate and wanted

create a new contract. As you can iimagine this was disappointing and

we did

not want to go through that process again. The board has recently agreed that it will endeavor to create a binding deal and they have delegated

two

board members to restart the process. However, QRpedia remains available for anyone to use and we have

projects

including those in Australia, France, Spain, Gibraltar, Germany, India, Estonia and Tunisia, These will continue to be supported for ever at no cost. Hope that helps On 20 January 2013 14:58, rupert THURNER <rupert.thurner(a)gmail.com>

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_______________________________________________ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediauk-l(a)wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org

Roger Bamkin

8:33 p.m.

Good question - I wonder whether that's what WMUK are considering? Roger On 20 January 2013 20:07, WereSpielChequers <werespielchequers(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:

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would it be possible to reveal the main obstacles why this is not yet settled? On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 5:14 PM, Roger Bamkin <victuallers(a)gmail.com> wrote:

Well thats a timely question. A deal was agreed in July with the UK

board's

representative and their Chief Exec and a contract was drawn up. Before Christmas the UK board said that they wanted to re-negotiate and

wanted to

create a new contract. As you can iimagine this was disappointing and

we did

not want to go through that process again. The board has recently

agreed

that it will endeavor to create a binding deal and they have delegated

two

board members to restart the process. However, QRpedia remains available for anyone to use and we have

projects

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> > hi, > > what is the current status of qrpedia? is at already recommended to > use it again in wikiland? > > rupert. > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia UK mailing list > wikimediauk-l(a)wikimedia.org > http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l > WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org -- Roger Bamkin Victuallers Ltd 01332 702993 0758 2020815 Google+:Victuallers Skype:Victuallers1 Flickr:Victuallers2 _______________________________________________ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediauk-l(a)wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org

_______________________________________________ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediauk-l(a)wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org

-- Roger Bamkin Victuallers Ltd 01332 702993 0758 2020815 Google+:Victuallers Skype:Victuallers1 Flickr:Victuallers2

Andy Mabbett

9:58 p.m.

On 20 January 2013 20:07, WereSpielChequers <werespielchequers(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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Would I be correct in understanding that you are intending to retain the QRpedia website and presumably brand? If so presumably we will need a new brand for our QR codes and should stop using the term QRpedia except when referring to the site currently used to generate QR codes?

Given how well-known - and respected - that name has become, that would be a terribly retrograde step. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk

WereSpielChequers

21 Jan 21 Jan

10:51 a.m.

I'm not party to the negotiations, and of course things being discussed there could be very different to what has been announced publicly. But unless I've missed something Roger has publicly offered to give the technology and another domain to the community, however he has said he is keeping QRpedia.org. So we as a community need to discontinue using QRpedia as a brand. Obviously that is unfortunate, but we should not look a gift horse in the mouth, what Roger and his associates have created and are giving to the community is very useful, we have no right to complain that they are being less generous than some might like. WSC On 20 January 2013 21:58, Andy Mabbett <andy(a)pigsonthewing.org.uk> wrote:

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On 20 January 2013 20:07, WereSpielChequers <werespielchequers(a)gmail.com> wrote:

Given how well-known - and respected - that name has become, that would be a terribly retrograde step. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk _______________________________________________ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediauk-l(a)wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org

Thomas Dalton

22 Jan 22 Jan

12:25 p.m.

Roger, Perhaps you could explain for us what the point of all these negotiations and contracts is? Why can't you just donate everything to WMUK? That's what I've never understood. I was at the November board meeting where this was discussed, and it seemed that the board didn't particularly understand either, which was why it was so difficult to try and work out a mutually acceptable deal. I think it's clear you aren't asking for money, so what are you asking for in exchange?

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