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Andy Mabbett

6 Apr 2014 6 Apr '14

8:31 p.m.

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Fæ

6 Apr 6 Apr

9:04 p.m.

Andy makes a good point. Could someone provide a link to the on-wiki page about this meeting to resolve any questions? Fae On 6 April 2014 21:31, Andy Mabbett <andy(a)pigsonthewing.org.uk> wrote:

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As a four-time[1] Wikipedian-in-Residence (indeed, as WMUK's first Wikipedian-in-Residence), I would be interested to know more about the "Wikipedian-in-Residence summit", which was apparently held by WMUK yesterday. I don't seem to be able to find anything on the wiki, not even an event listing. [1] More , if you count short stints under other titles. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk _______________________________________________ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediauk-l(a)wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk

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Richard Symonds

10:12 p.m.

Hi Andy, I'm sure a member of staff will have a look tomorrow (I'm not in tomorrow), but at first glance of the finance system, it appears that this may not have taken place at WMUK, but be something that has happened elsewhere in Europe. I say that because there are a lot of flights booked this week and the pattern of them, combined with staff schedules, suggests that it may have been difficult to host anything in London this weekend. Afraid I don't have any more information on it at present but someone will reply as soon as they can. Richard Symonds Wikimedia UK 0207 065 0992 Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). *Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.* On 6 April 2014 21:31, Andy Mabbett <andy(a)pigsonthewing.org.uk> wrote:

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Chris McKenna

7 Apr 7 Apr

2:02 a.m.

What information have you found about this event? I have been unable to verify its existence based on searches of google, WMF wikis and mailing lists to which I am subscribed. The closest I can come is Daria posting on the 17th March on the WMF Outreach Wiki about WMUK's survey about WIR positions in the UK [1], or her posting on the Water Cooler on Thursday (3 April) about the volunteer opportunity related to analysing the data from this survey [2]. This makes me wonder whether some wires have got crossed somewhere along the line? Chris [1] https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikipedian_in_Residence#Wikimedia_… [2] https://wikimedia.org.uk/wiki/Water_cooler#Looking_for_a_Research_Volunteer… On Sun, 6 Apr 2014, Andy Mabbett wrote:

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---- Chris McKenna cmckenna(a)sucs.org www.sucs.org/~cmckenna The essential things in life are seen not with the eyes, but with the heart Antoine de Saint Exupery

Jon Davies

8:40 a.m.

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What information have you found about this event? I have been unable to verify its existence based on searches of google, WMF wikis and mailing lists to which I am subscribed. The closest I can come is Daria posting on the 17th March on the WMF Outreach Wiki about WMUK's survey about WIR positions in the UK [1], or her posting on the Water Cooler on Thursday (3 April) about the volunteer opportunity related to analysing the data from this survey [2]. This makes me wonder whether some wires have got crossed somewhere along the line? Chris [1] https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikipedian_in_ Residence#Wikimedia_UK_is_running_a_survey_of_its_WIR_programme [2] https://wikimedia.org.uk/wiki/Water_cooler#Looking_for_a_ Research_Volunteer_to_help_us_with_the_Wikimedian_in_Residence_survey_-_ interesting_opportunity.21 On Sun, 6 Apr 2014, Andy Mabbett wrote: As a four-time[1] Wikipedian-in-Residence (indeed, as WMUK's first

Wikipedian-in-Residence), I would be interested to know more about the "Wikipedian-in-Residence summit", which was apparently held by WMUK yesterday. I don't seem to be able to find anything on the wiki, not even an event listing. [1] More , if you count short stints under other titles. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk _______________________________________________ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediauk-l(a)wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk

---- Chris McKenna cmckenna(a)sucs.org www.sucs.org/~cmckenna The essential things in life are seen not with the eyes, but with the heart Antoine de Saint Exupery _______________________________________________ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediauk-l(a)wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk

-- *Jon Davies - Chief Executive Wikimedia UK*. Mobile (0044) 7803 505 169 tweet @jonatreesdavies Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). Telephone (0044) 207 065 0990. Visit http://www.wikimedia.org.uk/ and @wikimediauk

Michael Peel

9:50 a.m.

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Good morning everybody, Daria and I are puzzled as to why a small internal meeting gained the status of a 'summit'! It was part of the analysis we are doing particularly with regard to the UK sponsored WiR posts and one of a series of processes. It involved people who had been paid by WMUK or closely involved in that proocess looking at the particular issues that brings up. We fully expect Andy and everyone to be involved through the consultation and in particular we are planning a day event (it was provisionally May 24 but we are not sure of the date yet, it is likely to slip into June). This will be up on the wiki as soon as we know and everyone will be welcome. Andy's experience will be very relevant. Jon PS Can I thank Jonathan and Daria and everyone else who gave up their Saturday. On 7 April 2014 03:02, Chris McKenna <cmckenna(a)sucs.org> wrote: What information have you found about this event? I have been unable to verify its existence based on searches of google, WMF wikis and mailing lists to which I am subscribed. The closest I can come is Daria posting on the 17th March on the WMF Outreach Wiki about WMUK's survey about WIR positions in the UK [1], or her posting on the Water Cooler on Thursday (3 April) about the volunteer opportunity related to analysing the data from this survey [2]. This makes me wonder whether some wires have got crossed somewhere along the line? Chris [1] https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikipedian_in_Residence#Wikimedia_… [2] https://wikimedia.org.uk/wiki/Water_cooler#Looking_for_a_Research_Volunteer… On Sun, 6 Apr 2014, Andy Mabbett wrote: As a four-time[1] Wikipedian-in-Residence (indeed, as WMUK's first Wikipedian-in-Residence), I would be interested to know more about the "Wikipedian-in-Residence summit", which was apparently held by WMUK yesterday. I don't seem to be able to find anything on the wiki, not even an event listing. [1] More , if you count short stints under other titles. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk _______________________________________________ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediauk-l(a)wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk ---- Chris McKenna cmckenna(a)sucs.org www.sucs.org/~cmckenna The essential things in life are seen not with the eyes, but with the heart Antoine de Saint Exupery _______________________________________________ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediauk-l(a)wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk -- Jon Davies - Chief Executive Wikimedia UK. Mobile (0044) 7803 505 169 tweet @jonatreesdavies Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). Telephone (0044) 207 065 0990. Visit http://www.wikimedia.org.uk/ and @wikimediauk _______________________________________________ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediauk-l(a)wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk

Jon Davies

10 a.m.

Internal is the sense that it was staff and people who had been/are employed as WiR plus one other person who had been heavily involved in the employment and a trustee. When we reviewed Train the Trainers we followed a similar model of small groups, individual interviews etc. This was part of the process. The weekend as this was the only day that worked for the group as a whole. I hope that explains it and that we will encourage Andy and everyone to continue to participate in this review. Jon On 7 April 2014 10:50, Michael Peel <michael.peel(a)manchester.ac.uk> wrote:

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Good morning everybody, Daria and I are puzzled as to why a small internal meeting gained the

status of a 'summit'! It was part of the analysis we are doing particularly with regard to the UK sponsored WiR posts and one of a series of processes. It involved people who had been paid by WMUK or closely involved in that proocess looking at the particular issues that brings up.

We fully expect Andy and everyone to be involved through the

consultation and in particular we are planning a day event (it was provisionally May 24 but we are not sure of the date yet, it is likely to slip into June). This will be up on the wiki as soon as we know and everyone will be welcome. Andy's experience will be very relevant.

Jon PS Can I thank Jonathan and Daria and everyone else who gave up their

Saturday.

On 7 April 2014 03:02, Chris McKenna <cmckenna(a)sucs.org> wrote: What information have you found about this event? I have been unable to

verify its existence based on searches of google, WMF wikis and mailing lists to which I am subscribed.

The closest I can come is Daria posting on the 17th March on the WMF

Outreach Wiki about WMUK's survey about WIR positions in the UK [1], or her posting on the Water Cooler on Thursday (3 April) about the volunteer opportunity related to analysing the data from this survey [2].

This makes me wonder whether some wires have got crossed somewhere along

the line?

Chris [1]

https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikipedian_in_Residence#Wikimedia_…

[2]

https://wikimedia.org.uk/wiki/Water_cooler#Looking_for_a_Research_Volunteer…

On Sun, 6 Apr 2014, Andy Mabbett wrote: As a four-time[1] Wikipedian-in-Residence (indeed, as WMUK's first Wikipedian-in-Residence), I would be interested to know more about the "Wikipedian-in-Residence summit", which was apparently held by WMUK yesterday. I don't seem to be able to find anything on the wiki, not even an event

listing.

[1] More , if you count short stints under other titles. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk _______________________________________________ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediauk-l(a)wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk ---- Chris McKenna cmckenna(a)sucs.org www.sucs.org/~cmckenna The essential things in life are seen not with the eyes, but with the heart Antoine de Saint Exupery _______________________________________________ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediauk-l(a)wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk -- Jon Davies - Chief Executive Wikimedia UK. Mobile (0044) 7803 505 169 tweet @jonatreesdavies Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and

Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects).

Telephone (0044) 207 065 0990. Visit http://www.wikimedia.org.uk/ and @wikimediauk _______________________________________________ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediauk-l(a)wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk

_______________________________________________ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediauk-l(a)wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk

Fæ

10:06 a.m.

Thanks for your answers on this Jon. Nice to see you engaging with volunteers. I seem to be left to answer my own question. I have to assume an on-wiki page does not exist. The charity and the board of trustees is 100% committed to transparency and staying volunteer-centric. To demonstrate that is still the case today, I see no reason why the minutes of this important weekend meeting should not now be promptly published on-wiki. I am taken aback that there was a review of Train the Trainers. As an unpaid volunteer Lead Trainer I would expect to be informed or invited to contribute. Why do we know nothing about it? Thanks for confirming this meeting existed with the members of the charity Jon, I am sure you have no interest in keeping the details of who went and why they were chosen an unnecessary secret. This is the sort of leadership on transparency that our CEO needs at his core, preferably to avoid these questions ever occuring. Fae. On 7 April 2014 11:00, Jon Davies <jon.davies(a)wikimedia.org.uk> wrote:

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_______________________________________________ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediauk-l(a)wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk

-- Jon Davies - Chief Executive Wikimedia UK. Mobile (0044) 7803 505 169 tweet @jonatreesdavies Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). Telephone (0044) 207 065 0990. Visit http://www.wikimedia.org.uk/ and @wikimediauk _______________________________________________ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediauk-l(a)wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk

-- faewik(a)gmail.com https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Fae Personal and confidential, please do not circulate or re-quote.

Richard Nevell

10:15 a.m.

Regarding the Training the Trainers review, people who went on the course were invited to complete a survey. In fact you were sent multiple emails about it. 27 out of the 34 people invited to the survey replied. On 7 April 2014 11:06, Fæ <faewik(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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Internal is the sense that it was staff and people who had been/are

employed

as WiR plus one other person who had been heavily involved in the

employment

and a trustee. When we reviewed Train the Trainers we followed a similar model of small groups, individual interviews etc. This was part of the process. The weekend as this was the only day that worked for the group as a

whole.

I hope that explains it and that we will encourage Andy and everyone to continue to participate in this review. Jon On 7 April 2014 10:50, Michael Peel <michael.peel(a)manchester.ac.uk>

wrote:

> > Hi Jon, > > I'm confused - how can it be a 'small internal meeting' that also

includes

> people that aren't 'internal' to the WMUK office? And why, if it's an > internal meeting, did it take place on a weekend necessitating staff to

give

> up their Saturday? > > Thanks, > Mike > > On 7 Apr 2014, at 09:40, Jon Davies <jon.davies(a)wikimedia.org.uk>

wrote:

> > > Good morning everybody, > > > > Daria and I are puzzled as to why a small internal meeting gained the > > status of a 'summit'! It was part of the analysis we are doing > > particularly with regard to the UK sponsored WiR posts and one of a

series

> > of processes. It involved people who had been paid by WMUK or closely > > involved in that proocess looking at the particular issues that

brings up.

> > > > We fully expect Andy and everyone to be involved through the > > consultation and in particular we are planning a day event (it was > > provisionally May 24 but we are not sure of the date yet, it is

likely to

> > slip into June). This will be up on the wiki as soon as we know and > > everyone will be welcome. Andy's experience will be very relevant. > > > > Jon > > > > PS Can I thank Jonathan and Daria and everyone else who gave up their > > Saturday. > > > > > > > > On 7 April 2014 03:02, Chris McKenna <cmckenna(a)sucs.org> wrote: > > What information have you found about this event? I have been unable

> > verify its existence based on searches of google, WMF wikis and

mailing

> > lists to which I am subscribed. > > > > The closest I can come is Daria posting on the 17th March on the WMF > > Outreach Wiki about WMUK's survey about WIR positions in the UK [1],

or her

> > posting on the Water Cooler on Thursday (3 April) about the volunteer > > opportunity related to analysing the data from this survey [2]. > > > > This makes me wonder whether some wires have got crossed somewhere

along

> > the line? > > > > Chris > > > > > > [1] > >

https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikipedian_in_Residence#Wikimedia_…

> > [2] > >

https://wikimedia.org.uk/wiki/Water_cooler#Looking_for_a_Research_Volunteer…

> > > > > > > > On Sun, 6 Apr 2014, Andy Mabbett wrote: > > > > As a four-time[1] Wikipedian-in-Residence (indeed, as WMUK's first > > Wikipedian-in-Residence), I would be interested to know more about the > > "Wikipedian-in-Residence summit", which was apparently held by WMUK > > yesterday. > > > > I don't seem to be able to find anything on the wiki, not even an

event

> > listing. > > > > > > > > [1] More , if you count short stints under other titles. > > > > -- > > Andy Mabbett > > @pigsonthewing > > http://pigsonthewing.org.uk > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia UK mailing list > > wikimediauk-l(a)wikimedia.org > > http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l > > WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk > > > > ---- > > Chris McKenna > > > > cmckenna(a)sucs.org > > www.sucs.org/~cmckenna > > > > > > The essential things in life are seen not with the eyes, > > but with the heart > > > > Antoine de Saint Exupery > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia UK mailing list > > wikimediauk-l(a)wikimedia.org > > http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l > > WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk > > > > > > > > -- > > Jon Davies - Chief Executive Wikimedia UK. Mobile (0044) 7803 505 169 > > tweet @jonatreesdavies > > > > Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England

and

> > Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513.

Registered

> > Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London

EC2A 4LT.

> > United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia > > movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation

(who

operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). Telephone (0044) 207 065 0990. Visit http://www.wikimedia.org.uk/ and @wikimediauk _______________________________________________ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediauk-l(a)wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk

_______________________________________________ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediauk-l(a)wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk

4LT.

United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). Telephone (0044) 207 065 0990. Visit http://www.wikimedia.org.uk/ and @wikimediauk _______________________________________________ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediauk-l(a)wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk

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-- Richard Nevell Assistant Office Manager Wikimedia UK +44 (0) 20 7065 0753 Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). *Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.*

Gordon Joly

10:17 a.m.

On 07/04/14 11:15, Richard Nevell wrote:

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27 out of the 34 people invited to the survey replied.

Now that is good! Gordon

Fæ

10:25 a.m.

I have created a separate thread on TTT. Apologies to others concerned with the closed WIR summit / review - this is a tangent. Fae On 7 April 2014 11:15, Richard Nevell <richard.nevell(a)wikimedia.org.uk> wrote:

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Hi Jon, I'm confused - how can it be a 'small internal meeting' that also includes people that aren't 'internal' to the WMUK office? And why, if it's an internal meeting, did it take place on a weekend necessitating staff to give up their Saturday? Thanks, Mike On 7 Apr 2014, at 09:40, Jon Davies <jon.davies(a)wikimedia.org.uk> wrote: > Good morning everybody, > > Daria and I are puzzled as to why a small internal meeting gained the > status of a 'summit'! It was part of the analysis we are doing > particularly with regard to the UK sponsored WiR posts and one of a > series > of processes. It involved people who had been paid by WMUK or closely > involved in that proocess looking at the particular issues that > brings up. > > We fully expect Andy and everyone to be involved through the > consultation and in particular we are planning a day event (it was > provisionally May 24 but we are not sure of the date yet, it is > likely to > slip into June). This will be up on the wiki as soon as we know and > everyone will be welcome. Andy's experience will be very relevant. > > Jon > > PS Can I thank Jonathan and Daria and everyone else who gave up their > Saturday. > > > > On 7 April 2014 03:02, Chris McKenna <cmckenna(a)sucs.org> wrote: > What information have you found about this event? I have been unable > to > verify its existence based on searches of google, WMF wikis and > mailing > lists to which I am subscribed. > > The closest I can come is Daria posting on the 17th March on the WMF > Outreach Wiki about WMUK's survey about WIR positions in the UK [1], > or her > posting on the Water Cooler on Thursday (3 April) about the volunteer > opportunity related to analysing the data from this survey [2]. > > This makes me wonder whether some wires have got crossed somewhere > along > the line? > > Chris > > > [1] > > https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikipedian_in_Residence#Wikimedia_… > [2] > > https://wikimedia.org.uk/wiki/Water_cooler#Looking_for_a_Research_Volunteer… > > > > On Sun, 6 Apr 2014, Andy Mabbett wrote: > > As a four-time[1] Wikipedian-in-Residence (indeed, as WMUK's first > Wikipedian-in-Residence), I would be interested to know more about > the > "Wikipedian-in-Residence summit", which was apparently held by WMUK > yesterday. > > I don't seem to be able to find anything on the wiki, not even an > event > listing. > > > > [1] More , if you count short stints under other titles. > > -- > Andy Mabbett > @pigsonthewing > http://pigsonthewing.org.uk > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia UK mailing list > wikimediauk-l(a)wikimedia.org > http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l > WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk > > ---- > Chris McKenna > > cmckenna(a)sucs.org > www.sucs.org/~cmckenna > > > The essential things in life are seen not with the eyes, > but with the heart > > Antoine de Saint Exupery > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia UK mailing list > wikimediauk-l(a)wikimedia.org > http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l > WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk > > > > -- > Jon Davies - Chief Executive Wikimedia UK. Mobile (0044) 7803 505 > 169 > tweet @jonatreesdavies > > Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England > and > Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. > Registered > Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London > EC2A 4LT. > United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia > movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation > (who > operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). > Telephone (0044) 207 065 0990. > > Visit http://www.wikimedia.org.uk/ and @wikimediauk > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia UK mailing list > wikimediauk-l(a)wikimedia.org > http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l > WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk _______________________________________________ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediauk-l(a)wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk

-- Richard Nevell Assistant Office Manager Wikimedia UK +44 (0) 20 7065 0753 Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents. _______________________________________________ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediauk-l(a)wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk

-- faewik(a)gmail.com https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Fae Personal and confidential, please do not circulate or re-quote.

Andy Mabbett

12:39 p.m.

" On 7 April 2014 11:00, Jon Davies <jon.davies(a)wikimedia.org.uk> wrote:

...

people who had been/are employed as WiR plus one other person who had been heavily involved in the employment and a trustee.

Jon, In recent weeks, we've had a consultation which was launched by staff member claiming that "as a chapter we have run the Wikimedian in Residence (WIR) programme since May 2012". When it was pointed out that this was incorrect, since the chapter's first WiR was in 2011, it was explained by another staff member that: "there were residencies that are not taken into considerations here. We wanted to consider the residencies that had institutions in significant cooperation with the chapter" This despite the fact that the 2011 ARKive residency did indeed involve an institution in significant cooperation with the chapter. Then I found that the ARKive residency had been omitted from the list of past residencies on the WMUK wiki: https://wikimedia.org.uk/w/index.php?title=Cultural_partnerships&diff=p… Now we have the event this weekend, where the ARKive residency and my feedback on that project (not to mention my other residencies) were apparently deemed irrelevant. On their own, any one of these might be considered an unfortunate oversight, but viewing the three together, especially after the first had been highlighted, one might wonder whether they reflect more than coincidence.

...

I hope that explains it and that we will encourage Andy and everyone to continue to participate in this review.

I gave up on the questionnaire for reasons that Mike P. and Harry have already highlighted. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk

Jon Davies

12:47 p.m.

Your input would be welcome in any form Andy. On 7 April 2014 13:39, Andy Mabbett <andy(a)pigsonthewing.org.uk> wrote:

...

" On 7 April 2014 11:00, Jon Davies <jon.davies(a)wikimedia.org.uk> wrote:

people who had been/are employed as WiR plus one other person who had been heavily involved in the employment and a trustee.

I hope that explains it and that we will encourage Andy and everyone to continue to participate in this review.

I gave up on the questionnaire for reasons that Mike P. and Harry have already highlighted. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk _______________________________________________ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediauk-l(a)wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk

Roger Bamkin

12:11 p.m.

Hmmm I thought I met Andy in Derby where I was the first WMUK person in a museum.... Bar liam. Have I missed an earlier collaboration? R On 7 Apr 2014 15:02, "Chris McKenna" <cmckenna(a)sucs.org> wrote:

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What information have you found about this event? I have been unable to verify its existence based on searches of google, WMF wikis and mailing lists to which I am subscribed. The closest I can come is Daria posting on the 17th March on the WMF Outreach Wiki about WMUK's survey about WIR positions in the UK [1], or her posting on the Water Cooler on Thursday (3 April) about the volunteer opportunity related to analysing the data from this survey [2]. This makes me wonder whether some wires have got crossed somewhere along the line? Chris [1] https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikipedian_in_ Residence#Wikimedia_UK_is_running_a_survey_of_its_WIR_programme [2] https://wikimedia.org.uk/wiki/Water_cooler#Looking_for_a_ Research_Volunteer_to_help_us_with_the_Wikimedian_in_Residence_survey_-_ interesting_opportunity.21 On Sun, 6 Apr 2014, Andy Mabbett wrote: As a four-time[1] Wikipedian-in-Residence (indeed, as WMUK's first

Andy Mabbett

2:12 p.m.

On 7 April 2014 13:11, Roger Bamkin <victuallers(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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Hmmm I thought I met Andy in Derby

Certainly true.

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where I was the first WMUK person in a museum....

I understood that was on your own initiative, rather then as a WMUK project. Happy to be corrected!

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Bar liam.

Liam was the first WiiR, but not, I understand, in conjunction with WMUK. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk

Michael Peel

3:08 p.m.

On 7 Apr 2014, at 15:12, Andy Mabbett <andy(a)pigsonthewing.org.uk> wrote:

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On 7 April 2014 13:11, Roger Bamkin <victuallers(a)gmail.com> wrote:

Bar liam.

Liam was the first WiiR, but not, I understand, in conjunction with WMUK.

Charles Matthews

3:21 p.m.

On 7 April 2014 16:08, Michael Peel <michael.peel(a)manchester.ac.uk> wrote:

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On 7 Apr 2014, at 15:12, Andy Mabbett <andy(a)pigsonthewing.org.uk> wrote:

On 7 April 2014 13:11, Roger Bamkin <victuallers(a)gmail.com> wrote:

Bar liam.

Liam was the first WiiR, but not, I understand, in conjunction with WMUK.

That depends on what you mean by 'conjunction with'. He was certainly 'liaising with', and it was an achievement that WMUK had an important role in at the time and should at least view as WMUK-supported (WMUK/I introduced Liam to the British Museum when he was in the UK, which started the whole ball rolling). <http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l>

If you can reference that, it can go in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedian_in_residence which might be a better place to sort out the early history - conflict of interest permitting, of course. Charles

Michael Peel

5:29 p.m.

On 7 Apr 2014, at 16:21, Charles Matthews <charles.r.matthews(a)ntlworld.com> wrote:

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On 7 April 2014 16:08, Michael Peel <michael.peel(a)manchester.ac.uk> wrote: On 7 Apr 2014, at 15:12, Andy Mabbett <andy(a)pigsonthewing.org.uk> wrote:

On 7 April 2014 13:11, Roger Bamkin <victuallers(a)gmail.com> wrote:

Bar liam.

Liam was the first WiiR, but not, I understand, in conjunction with WMUK.

That depends on what you mean by 'conjunction with'. He was certainly 'liaising with', and it was an achievement that WMUK had an important role in at the time and should at least view as WMUK-supported (WMUK/I introduced Liam to the British Museum when he was in the UK, which started the whole ball rolling). If you can reference that, it can go in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedian_in_residence which might be a better place to sort out the early history - conflict of interest permitting, of course.

Referencing is tricky - the best reference for WMUK's involvement would probably be pages like: https://wikimedia.org.uk/wiki/Backstage_Pass and I'm not sure WMUK's wiki counts as a reliable source. ;-) Some of the history's never been recorded. Either way, I have a COI so couldn't add this - the same as I can't edit the Editathon article to talk about the conception/first ever editathon under that name back in 2011 at the British Library... Thanks, Mike

Charles Matthews

5:43 p.m.

On 7 April 2014 18:29, Michael Peel <michael.peel(a)manchester.ac.uk> wrote:

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On 7 Apr 2014, at 16:21, Charles Matthews <charles.r.matthews(a)ntlworld.com> wrote:

On 7 April 2014 16:08, Michael Peel <michael.peel(a)manchester.ac.uk>

wrote:

On 7 Apr 2014, at 15:12, Andy Mabbett <andy(a)pigsonthewing.org.uk> wrote: > On 7 April 2014 13:11, Roger Bamkin <victuallers(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Bar liam. > > Liam was the first WiiR, but not, I understand, in conjunction with

WMUK.

That depends on what you mean by 'conjunction with'. He was certainly

'liaising with', and it was an achievement that WMUK had an important role in at the time and should at least view as WMUK-supported (WMUK/I introduced Liam to the British Museum when he was in the UK, which started the whole ball rolling).

If you can reference that, it can go in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedian_in_residence which might be a better place to sort out the early history - conflict

of interest permitting, of course. Referencing is tricky - the best reference for WMUK's involvement would probably be pages like: https://wikimedia.org.uk/wiki/Backstage_Pass and I'm not sure WMUK's wiki counts as a reliable source. ;-) Some of the history's never been recorded. Either way, I have a COI so couldn't add this - the same as I can't edit the Editathon article to talk about the conception/first ever editathon under that name back in 2011 at the British Library... Well, then.

Charles

Andy Mabbett

5:24 p.m.

On 7 April 2014 16:08, Michael Peel <michael.peel(a)manchester.ac.uk> wrote:

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On 7 Apr 2014, at 15:12, Andy Mabbett <andy(a)pigsonthewing.org.uk> wrote:

On 7 April 2014 13:11, Roger Bamkin <victuallers(a)gmail.com> wrote:

Bar liam.

Liam was the first WiiR, but not, I understand, in conjunction with WMUK.

That I didn't know; if you have a citation (not that I doubt you for a minute, but you know Wikipedia...) it would be good to mention that in the WiR and WMUK articles. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk

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