By top ten photographers, it would be keeping the top 10 (with potentially
a person winning multiple places) but then going down through the ranking
on Montage to find the next top placed photographers, not assessing
peoples' entries as sub sets - just for clarity. It would functionally be
the same as only allowing an individual one winning spot in the top ten
images.
On Thu, 1 Dec 2022 at 15:01, effe iets anders <effeietsanders(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
Procedurally, 'top ten photographers' seems
harder to execute than 'top
ten photos with only one photo per photographer' (comparing someone's
entire set of submissions is just.. hard). But that is more a matter of
execution than a value statement.
As for restricting who can participate: This is definitely up to the
national team, and I know some countries have done so in the past. I would
be cautious with the word 'native' of course, but that's mostly a matter of
phrasing and political sensitivity. I suspect you mean 'inhabitants'.
If you restrict yourself to inhabitants, you should consider how many high
quality images that would leave you with. If tourists are your main source
of high quality images, would banning them from the competition help or
hurt your goals? What are your goals exactly anyway? Are there other ways
to achieve them? (think about special awards etc)
But also consider: how will you enforce it? How will you verify that
someone is an 'inhabitant' and what is your definition? For example,
someone who spends 3 months per year in Suriname, would they be allowed to
participate? And 6 months? 9 months? How would someone have to prove that
they meet that definition?
In general, I always caution for rules that are negative in their nature:
they have a tendency to mostly push people away, rather than encourage new
participation from the group you feel you want more participation from. At
least in the short term. It might be worth thinking about what positive
measures you can think about towards that goal, how you could encourage and
facilitate participation from people who currently live in Suriname.
Just my two cents :) This is definitely not a new conversation, and it's
great to see people chime in with their experiences!
Lodewijk
On Thu, Dec 1, 2022 at 3:40 PM Rebecca O'Neill <rebeccanineil(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
Having taken advice on this, from next year
Ireland is going to award
prizes to the top ten photographers rather than the top ten images. Though
only allowing one image from each person in the top 10 is an interesting
approach as well.
We have had non-Irish winners in the past, from the United States,
Germany, and Israel and decided to award them anyway.
On Thu, 1 Dec 2022 at 14:28, Nicolas VIGNERON <vigneron.nicolas(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
As far as I remember, each country can choose its
own rule (within
reason obviously).
For instance, to answer Mārtiņš point, in most countries, one person can
only be once in the Top 10 but some countries choose to keep the top 10 as
it is (multiple photos by the same user or not).
I don't see why a country couldn't exclude non-native if it make sense
locally, I'm more curious about how you determine if someone is native or
not.
Cdlt,
Nicolas
Le jeu. 1 déc. 2022 à 15:13, Mārtiņš Bruņenieks <martinsb(a)gmail.com> a
écrit :
Hi!
We had a similar problem with (2) in a small country (Latvia). A good
solution was to set a limit of max 3 images per person in the Top 10. If
anyone gets more, these are discarded in favour of the next images in
ranking.
Mārtiņš
ceturtd., 2022. g. 1. dec., plkst. 15:56 — lietotājs Michelle van
Lanschot (<vanlanschot(a)wikimedia.nl>) rakstīja:
> Dear everyone,
>
> The WLM Suriname team will soon be evaluating this years competition,
> and we have two questions we would like to ask your advice on:
> 1. The winner of this year's competition was not from Suriname, but
> from the Netherlands. This has caused some criticism from the local
> community. Is it possible to only accept contributions by natives of
> Suriname?
> 2. This year's top ten has 7 pictures from the same uploader. How
> would we go about avoiding this next year?
>
> Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts!
>
> Best regards,
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> Michelle van Lanschot
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