Hi! We had a similar problem with (2) in a small country (Latvia). A good solution was to set a limit of max 3 images per person in the Top 10. If anyone gets more, these are discarded in favour of the next images in ranking. Mārtiņš ceturtd., 2022. g. 1. dec., plkst. 15:56 — lietotājs Michelle van Lanschot (<vanlanschot(a)wikimedia.nl>) rakstīja: _______________________________________________ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list To unsubscribe send an email to wikilovesmonuments-leave(a)lists.wikimedia.org http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org

Having taken advice on this, from next year Ireland is going to award prizes to the top ten photographers rather than the top ten images. Though only allowing one image from each person in the top 10 is an interesting approach as well. We have had non-Irish winners in the past, from the United States, Germany, and Israel and decided to award them anyway. On Thu, 1 Dec 2022 at 14:28, Nicolas VIGNERON <vigneron.nicolas(a)gmail.com> wrote: _______________________________________________ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list To unsubscribe send an email to wikilovesmonuments-leave(a)lists.wikimedia.org http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org

Procedurally, 'top ten photographers' seems harder to execute than 'top ten photos with only one photo per photographer' (comparing someone's entire set of submissions is just.. hard). But that is more a matter of execution than a value statement. As for restricting who can participate: This is definitely up to the national team, and I know some countries have done so in the past. I would be cautious with the word 'native' of course, but that's mostly a matter of phrasing and political sensitivity. I suspect you mean 'inhabitants'. If you restrict yourself to inhabitants, you should consider how many high quality images that would leave you with. If tourists are your main source of high quality images, would banning them from the competition help or hurt your goals? What are your goals exactly anyway? Are there other ways to achieve them? (think about special awards etc) But also consider: how will you enforce it? How will you verify that someone is an 'inhabitant' and what is your definition? For example, someone who spends 3 months per year in Suriname, would they be allowed to participate? And 6 months? 9 months? How would someone have to prove that they meet that definition? In general, I always caution for rules that are negative in their nature: they have a tendency to mostly push people away, rather than encourage new participation from the group you feel you want more participation from. At least in the short term. It might be worth thinking about what positive measures you can think about towards that goal, how you could encourage and facilitate participation from people who currently live in Suriname. Just my two cents :) This is definitely not a new conversation, and it's great to see people chime in with their experiences! Lodewijk On Thu, Dec 1, 2022 at 3:40 PM Rebecca O'Neill <rebeccanineil(a)gmail.com> wrote: _______________________________________________ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list To unsubscribe send an email to wikilovesmonuments-leave(a)lists.wikimedia.org http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org

I think that limiting the participation to a WLM contest only to inhabitants of a certain place (or citizens of a certain state) would contrast with our Universal Code of Conduct and more in general with our policy to allow contributions from everybody without even asking who they are and where they come from. As Lodewijk said, I'd rather seek different ways to engage more people who live in Suriname. For example, in Apulia (region of Italy) we found a local community of photographers which became our partner for the local edition of Wiki Loves Monuments. We organise activities (photo walks, exhibitions and gatherings/meetings) and try to involve potentially interested public. Ferdinando (User:Ferdi2005) On Thu, Dec 01, 2022 at 16:00:23, effe iets anders < effeietsanders(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: _______________________________________________ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list To unsubscribe send an email to wikilovesmonuments-leave(a)lists.wikimedia.org http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org

While each country organizer is free to make whatever silly rules they want, I would be furious if an affiliate chose to deny me from participating in a Wiki Loves X where I live just because I am not from that country, unless they were legally required to do so. I would even be angry if someone rejected my holiday photos as well. This is contrary to everything about collaboration Wikimedia holds dear. Jan Ainali Den tors 1 dec. 2022 kl 14:57 skrev Michelle van Lanschot < vanlanschot(a)wikimedia.nl&gt;gt;: _______________________________________________ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list To unsubscribe send an email to wikilovesmonuments-leave(a)lists.wikimedia.org http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org

Hi, You can actually do this both ways. Firstly, indeed you can create participation restriction whatever way you want (e.g. residents of Suriname only). The only restriction is your national legal constraints. In some countries they allow only local residents to win prizes because of legal requirements, in other countries it might be illegal to deny participation to foreigners. Secondly, you may well create special nominations for locals and/or foreigners if you want and you consider it justified. We experimented this in Ukraine a few times. For example, once we had a special prize for a photo made by a foreigner (with the winner even coming to Kyiv to the award ceremony - obviously it was before the Russian invasion) because we had a partner interested in it and we wanted to reach the audience of tourists and/or expats. On another occasion we had a special prize for a photo made by a (Ukrainian) secondary school student - because we had a partner working with this audience and we saw this as a great opportunity to encourage participation there. In both cases people could contend for main prizes and for the specific prize. In all cases it was primarily based on self-identification (we required users to tick a box or sign on a page if they wanted to participate in this special nomination. I would honestly recommend the later approach - try to identify potential audience (e.g. local students, members of a local photographic society etc.) and introduce a special award for them. This does encourage participation without discouraging others. Mykola (NickK) WLM Ukraine *1 грудня 2022, 16:53:41, від "effe iets anders" &lt;effeietsanders(a)gmail.com &lt;effeietsanders(a)gmail.com&gt;&gt;m>>: * I can well imagine this. At the same time, I can appreciate the concerns that I read as underpinning this question: how can we create an environment where the people living in country X, feel that they have a fair chance to actually win the competition, rather than all prizes being scooped up by tourists with better cameras (note the distinction between inhabitants and nationals, in this context). If your goal is to use the competition to build a local community, I can understand such a rule as an intuitive response. That being said, I think I made my point about whether this might or might not be the most appropriate way to approach this challenge. I just wanted to make sure that what I suspect is other side of the argument is also clear. Warmly, Lodewijk On Thu, Dec 1, 2022 at 4:28 PM Jan Ainali &lt;ainali.jan(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: While each country organizer is free to make whatever silly rules they want, I would be furious if an affiliate chose to deny me from participating in a Wiki Loves X where I live just because I am not from that country, unless they were legally required to do so. I would even be angry if someone rejected my holiday photos as well. This is contrary to everything about collaboration Wikimedia holds dear. Jan Ainali Den tors 1 dec. 2022 kl 14:57 skrev Michelle van Lanschot < vanlanschot(a)wikimedia.nl&gt;gt;: Dear everyone, The WLM Suriname team will soon be evaluating this years competition, and we have two questions we would like to ask your advice on: 1. The winner of this year's competition was not from Suriname, but from the Netherlands. This has caused some criticism from the local community. Is it possible to only accept contributions by natives of Suriname? 2. 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Hi! It probably depends on what you want your competition to be for. There are easier and less expensive ways of encouraging quality images and the international competition hasn't changed it's taste of pictures in many years. These considerations should not play as an important role for local organisers as trying to foster a photography community in your country that can then also go on to do more important documentary work. Best, Philip On Fri, 2 Dec 2022 at 06:07, Bodhisattwa &lt;bodhisattwa.rgkmc(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: