Hello everyone,
I am Netha Hussain, a Wikimania attendee. I will be around at India
booth in Chapters Village from 9 to 10 am on July 19 to talk about Jeph's
graphs about editor activity analysis. I am also anticipating Jeph to come
online over my computer during the same time, so you can also direct your
questions to the creator himself!
See you later today at India booth!
Regards
Netha
On Sun, Jul 19, 2015 at 1:26 PM, Pine W <wiki.pine(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Jeph,
Interesting. Am I reading correctly from
https://cosmiclattes.github.io/wikigraphs/data/en/Editor%20Cohort%20Activit…
that editor longevity, measured by number of edit sessions, is continuing
to shrink over time?
Thanks,
Pine
On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 6:52 AM, jeph <jephpaul(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> If any of of you are at the wikimania currently, Netha Hussain would
> be happy to run you guys through the graphs in person and take any
> questions on them. She is free from 09:00 - 11:00 CDT (mexican local time)
> on Sunday.
>
> Jeph
>
> On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 1:19 PM, jeph <jephpaul(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> @ Aaron
>>
>> - I've added the definitions.
>>
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Editor_Behaviour_Analysis_%26_Grap…
>> using the historical definition -
>>
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Refining_the_definition_of_monthly…
>> for an active editor.
>> - The longevity graph shows some interesting results when we
>> compare 'en' with other languages like 'es', 'zh' etc.
I'll upload them and
>> send the link as soon as I can.
>> - Graphs 4&5 do show results that are different from [1]
>> - Graph 4 - Monthly Editor Activity Split By Cohort - Stacked
>> Bars
>>
<https://cosmiclattes.github.io/wikigraphs/data/en/Editor_Cohort_Contribution_in_a_month_by_value_stacked_view.html>
.
>> Selecting 1-2 in the selector show the contribution of the cohort that
>> joined in that month in all the months.
>> - Graph 5 - Monthly Editor Activity % Split By Cohort -
>> Stacked Bars
>>
<https://cosmiclattes.github.io/wikigraphs/data/en/Editor%20Cohort%20Contribution%20in%20a%20month%20by%20percentage%20-%20stacked%20view.html>.
>> Selecting the same (1-2 in the selector) show the contribution of the
>> cohort that joined in that month as a % of the total activity in a given
>> month for all months.
>> - In the month of Jan 07 , The cohort Jan 07 contributed
>> 'x'%.
>> - The activity in month Jan 07 = cohort Jan 07 + cohort Dec
>> 06 ..... Cohort Jan 01.
>> - The editor activity peaks in Jan 07 - March 07 as shown in Graph
>> 4
>>
<https://cosmiclattes.github.io/wikigraphs/data/en/Editor_Cohort_Contribution_in_a_month_by_value_stacked_view.html>
and
>> many other graphs [1] etc.
>> - Graph 5 show that for the same period the contribution in %
>> for the cohorts joining in the months Jan 07 - March 07, aka the new
comers
>> each month has remained the same and it is < 40 %. So the older editors
>> contributed 60+ % in those months. Which tell us that the contribution to
>> the fall in active editors lies both with the new editors in a month and
>> also the older editors. In fact the older editors contributed more to the
>> fall.
>> - I have not looked specifically at (No of edits in first session
>> after registration)
>> - It was [1] that got me working on the graphs :-)
>>
>> @WereSpielChequers
>>
>> - Please send me a screenshot & I'll try to fix it for you.
>> - If you know the dates when they were introduced we could find
>> out what effect it had. Could you please add them to
>>
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Editor_Behaviour_Analysis_%26_Grap…
>> or on the talk page.
>>
>> There are five different graphs at
>>
https://cosmiclattes.github.io/wikigraphs/data/en/index.html. The
>> explanation for each of them can be found at the bottom of each graph. I've
>> generated the graphs for other wikis too 'es', 'de', 'ru'
etc. I'll put
>> them up as soon as I can.
>>
>> 1.
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:The_Rise_and_Decline
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 4:27 AM, Aaron Halfaker <
>> aaron.halfaker(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> There are a lot of undefined metrics in your methods. For example,
>>> what do you mean by "canonical definition of edit sessions". Is it
[0]?
>>> Also, is there something that we learn from this longevity analysis that we
>>> didn't learn from previous research? E.g. [1] and [2]. One point that I
>>> think would look into is the engagement measure used in [1] (# of edits in
>>> first session after registration). In my work on [1], it looked like this
>>> stat remained consistent since 2004 and therefor didn't seem to explain
the
>>> drop in newcomer retention.
>>>
>>> 0.
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Activity_session
>>> 1.
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:The_Rise_and_Decline
>>> 2.
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Surviving_new_editor
>>>
>>> -Aaron
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 2:01 PM, jeph <jephpaul(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi All,
>>>>
>>>> I been working on graphs to visualize the entire edit activity of
>>>> in wiki for some time now. I'm documenting all of it at
>>>>
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Editor_Behaviour_Analysis_%26_Grap…
>>>> .
>>>>
>>>> The graphs can be viewed at
>>>>
https://cosmiclattes.github.io/wikigraphs/data/wikis.html.
>>>> Currently only graphs for 'en' have been put up, I'll add the
graphs for
>>>> the wikis soon.
>>>>
>>>> Methodology
>>>>
>>>> - The editors are split into groups based on the month in which
>>>> they made their first edit.
>>>> - The active edit sessions (value or percentage etc) for the
>>>> groups are then plotted as stacked bars or as a matrix. I've used
the
>>>> canonical definition of an active edit session. The value are + or -
.1% of
>>>> the values on
https://stats.wikimedia.org/
>>>>
>>>> Selector
>>>>
>>>> - There is a selector on each graph that lets you filter the
>>>> data in the graph. On moving the cursor to the left end of the
selector you
>>>> will get a resize cursor. The selection can then are moved or
redrawn.
>>>> - In graphs 1,2 the selector filters by percentage.
>>>> - In graphs 3,4,5 the selector filters by the age of the cohort.
>>>>
>>>> Preliminary Finding
>>>>
>>>> - Longevity of editors fell drastically starting Jan 06 and has
>>>> since stabilized at levels from Jan 07.
>>>>
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Editor_Behaviour_Analysis_%26_Grap…
>>>>
>>>> Would you to hear what you guys think of the graphs & any ideas you
>>>> would have for me.
>>>>
>>>> Jeph
>>>>
>>>>
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