+1
Sometimes (goodwilling), we try to give a voice to those that do have it,
but don't want to use it. Instead of giving it to those who don't have it
and thus, are excluded ...
[Sorry for my English]
2011/12/1 emijrp <emijrp(a)gmail.com>
2011/12/1 Carol Moore
<carolmooredc(a)verizon.net>
On 11/29/2011 5:19 PM, emijrp wrote:
So, the first step would be to try and figure out if women are
visiting the site and not editing or just not visiting at all, before
saying nonsense about sexism and Wikipedia community.
Fundraising from women is an interesting topic. You may think comments
about sexism and the Wikipedia community are nonsense, but guess what.
Women who take a lot of sexist nonsense AT wikipedia sure aren't going
to donate TO wikipedia, are they?
Also, since women in general are busier with work AND family
responsibilities, so often the women who have the most time to edit are
unemployed, disabled, retired or otherwise on limited incomes.
[citation needed]
Furthermore, editing Wikipedia only requires 30 minutes a day/week. I'm
sure all women waste more time watching TV. But watching TV is funnier for
most the people.
In the other hand, looks like women in all ages have time to waste in
Facebook
http://www.kenburbary.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Image1_thumb3.pngAnd gender balance
is fifty-fifty.
Finally, if the reason for the low female editors proportion is time, how
can Wikipedia solve that? Are we going to pay to female editors for their
time?
I can
think of a few. Besides a ten spot here and a ten spot there, we can't
give large amounts of money.
But there are women with big bucks out
there giving lots to women-friendly organizations
left and right. We
must make Wikipedia women friendly to get their money.
You are wrong. To see donation banners and to donate only reading is
required, not editing. Are you going to say that only poor women read
Wikipedia?
By they way, making Wikipedia women friendly? What does that mean? Is that
a new politically correct science?
Better, make Wikipedia friendly to disabled people, the great forgotten
excluded people group. For example, blind people can't sign up because of
Wikipedia captcha (there is no sound captcha
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4845). That is a real
barrier which Wikimedia Foundation have to solve putting resources.
Where is the accessibility mailing list? Accessibility is a recommendation
by W3C since 1997, and we are in the top ten websites, as WMF likes to
boast.
Anyway, putting down one of the main concerns of
this list as nonsense
is not helpful.
Sure. For your information, this mailing list is a insult to the real
excluded people.
Thanks.
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