River Tarnell schrieb:
Daniel Kinzler:
I'm not quite sure though if the toolserver
blog should be on the planet...
it already is.
Right. I was wondering if it should be.
On the other
hand, status reports like "replication failed, will fix
tomorrow" is not so helpful in the aggregated feed.
i don't know if that belongs on the blog; i intended it for organisational
issues more than technical. we do have a mailing list already...
Yes, which is what toolserver users read. But we have an increasing need to
inform "ordinary" weiki users about what'S going on. Because they are using
the
tools as part of normal site operation. The blog would be an easy< way of doing
that, I think.
The
Toolserver, or more accurately, the Toolserver cluster, is a project by
Wikimedia Germany
with assistance from Wikimedia France (ZWS).
True. And we are trying to make it easier for other chapters to support us. It's
a bit tricky tax-wise, i'm told.
The Toolserver
cluster, is located in Amsterdam
and one machine in Tampa.
Indeed. And as dutch people insist, the cluster is no longer in Amsterdam at
all. It's in Haarlem, about 10km west of Amsterdam :)
I believe that
there was some frustration by people who had the skill to
develop helpful tools for the wiki communities, but did not get access to the
main server cluster, for security reasons. So the idea arose to create a
place for such people to work with the data.
it's interesting that the Toolserver turned out quite differently than we
initially expected; i had hoped to create a community where people would work
together to create useful tools, but instead we have isolated users who create
their own tools (or in some cases, 10 copies of the same tool) and rarely work
together. it's a shame; i think the former would be much more useful than what
we have now...
Increasing cooperation would be cool. One thing that might help is to promote a
"toolbox", that is, a shared library of utilities to be used and maintained by
everyone.
I suppose we should also rethink our permission model for svn repositories.
Without a shared repository, cooperation is much harder.
* If one gets an account, what are the
responsibilities? I know
accounts had to be reconfirmed, are there resource limits such as disk
space limits for each user? or what?
It's the user's responsibility to
comply to the rules, that is, to do no evil.
There are no hard limits on resources, users are asked to be considerate.
we do have a hard limit on memory use, which is 1GB per user. (because
we often found users would consume all the available memory, whereupon the
server would crash.)
Ha, good to know. That's how sucky a system admin I am :)
-- daniel