I'm going to pull out some of the discussion points from the notes for wider discussion. * there is little support from the WMF : This is always going to be a subjective answer but lets keep in mind that the WMF has been sponsoring work for improving Kiwix, expanding the Collections extension to support openZIM, and improving Article selection. Each one of those plays a key role in the offline content pipeline. Non engineering wise we've been connecting with the English, Spanish, and Portuguese projects so that we can help release new collection. We've also been working with eReadia and a whole host of others to better understand the offline space. Everyone can always do more but its important to choose what you work on and make that work well. I think the bigger discussion point can be is if the WMF doing enough and if not knowing why. * the promised things like regular ZIM dumps sohuld be finally done by WMF to support the spread of the software / project : The current XML dumps is system is fairly broken and has been a nightmare to manage over the last couple of years. And if you think the XML system is bad then don't even look at the HTML generation system. Instead of pushing more work into it we've opted to go for a much simpler route. Allow the collections infrastructure to generate full project files. Using the existing system we make the workflow much easier for anyone wanting openZIm files while at the same time not making our infrastructure more complicated then it needs to be. * openZIM and Kiwix are hardly able to cope with the expectations due to missing developers - not only software-wise but also concerning documentation Totally agree. We've made some amazing progress on both the Kiwix betas and Collections extension but we can still do more. I think we have to look at the engagement that we do (LinuxTag, Wikimania, Berlin Dev Conf, beta testing, blog posts, etc) and really assess whats working and whats not. The chapters can do a lot here to fund initiatives and help run them. * reimbursement for the server to build ZIM files +1 * house the Kiwix server in a NOC +1 .. I've said for a while that we should just move it over to download.wikipedia.org * restructure the Offline pages on Meta wiki: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Offline_Projects Who is owning this piece? I'd love to add my ideas about how to go about it. * writing proposal for a contractor on openZIM Looking over http://openzim.org/Roadmap its bit hard to know what's happening post Wikimania. Whats the future look like? Eager to hear other peoples thoughts. --tomasz On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 2:20 PM, Tomasz Finc <tfinc(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:

2011/8/6 Tomasz Finc <tfinc(a)wikimedia.org> Jessie Wild (cc) & myself had some ideas written in her notebook. -- רותם שמחה