[Maps-l] Wikimaps: About the template for maps

Hi all,**** ** ** A standard, way of geolocating maps involves use of subpages with KML code. See for example http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Dayton,_Indiana_1878.png and http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Dayton,_Indiana_1878.png/overlay.kml. There was not a whole lot of people creating those KML’s and the software often does not like the subpages of files, but the infrastructure is there ready to use. If there was more interest in using them we could discuss some improvements to the system. We could also streamline kml production based on available data. Most current files are created using North/South/East/West edges and possible rotation. It might be more convenient to use coordinates of 4 corners, which is a format also supported by KML. **** ** ** Another possibility would be to use Template:GeoPolygon, or both. **** ** ** Are there any other fields specific to maps that are not template:Artwork? We could always upload a few sample images by hand (or pick existing ones) and ask community for help on formatting metadata, which would be than used as a template (using non Wikipedia meaning of the word) for the other uploads. That way we can easily see what are the possible improvements to Commons templates (using Wikipedia meaning of the word).**** ** ** We could also create a specialized template for maps, which could be just extension of Artwork template. But it would be the best to avoid that if not necessary. Rarely used templates tend to get little attention and maintenance. **** ** ** Jarek T.**** User:jarekt**** ** ** ** ** *From:* Maarten Dammers [mailto:maarten@mdammers.nl] *Sent:* Wednesday, May 29, 2013 3:20 PM *To:* Susanna Ånäs *Cc:* David Haskiya; dan entous; Valentine Charles; Tuszynski, Jaroslaw W. *Subject:* Re: About the template for maps**** ** ** Hi David and Susanna, Like what I said on the hackathon: I generally like to get improve existing template instead of forking them. The whole location metadata is something you need to keep separate anyway, it would be a mess to try to fit that in the same template. I think in the long run this data needs to end up at Wikidata. Maarten Ps. Put Jarek on the cc. Op 29-5-2013 20:08, Susanna Ånäs schreef:**** Hi all, **** ** ** I am willing to gather more information from especially our map curator, plus perhaps our contact in the Land Survey regarding the simplest form of adequate metadata for maps. With Tim Alder we discussed that we do need at least the bounding box for the map, if it's available, though only after the map has a location. Realizing also that none of the existing templates for location only are perfect for our purpose.**** ** ** Please include relevant people in the discussion!**** ** ** Cheers,**** Susanna**** ** ** ** ** ** ** 2013/5/29 David Haskiya &lt;David.Haskiya(a)kb.nl&gt;**** Hi Susanna, We gave up on trying to change/extend the default Artwork template (or any other template) as the community indicated that would not be a welcome or easy thing to do. So we use the default Book, Photo, Artwork and Species templates. Our contact was http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Jarektwho is knowledgeable, friendly and constructive. I think we the more insider position you and Maarten have it should be possible to get support for a new template - I don't understand Wikimedia Common dynamics very well though. De-facto it looks like Artwork is the template used for historical maps. If you and Maarten as part of your project create a specific Map template or a specific Artwork-Map template then adding it to our tool as a target template should be simple (unless it deviates strongly from the existing templates). Cheers, David --- Product Developer www.europeana.eu Phone: +31 (0)70 3140 696 Mobile: +31 (0)64 217 2542 Email: david.haskiya(a)kb.nl Skype: davidhaskiya**** they from too Dublin @WMFinland **** ** ** -- **** *Susanna Ånäs* Wikimedia Suomi <http://fi.wikimedia.org/wiki/Etusivu> **** GLAM <http://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:GLAM> – tiedotus – yhteistyö Puhelin: +358 40 557 8039 Sähköposti: susanna.anas(a)wikimedia.fi**** ** ** Wikimedia Suomi <http://blog.wikimedia.fi/> -blogi on aloitettu! Seuraa meitä Twitterissä @ <https://twitter.com/WMFinland>WMFinland<https://twitter.com/WMFinland>tai Facebookissa <https://www.facebook.com/WikimediaSuomi>. Liity jäseneksi!<http://fi.wikimedia.org/wiki/Liity_j%C3%A4seneksi> **** ** **