[Wikipedia-l] Non-notability "abuse"

[Ray Saintonge]

J.L.W.S. The Special One wrote:
> So, Andre, in your opinion, the question should be: "Where do we draw the
> line?"
>
> That's why we need notability criteria that are objective, not subjective.
>   
You're asking for the impossible.  "Notable", "significant" and 
"reliable" can only find agreement at either extreme of the scale, and 
they are not identical from subject to subject.  There's a big fuzzy 
middle where we need to begin by assuming that the person posting the 
information is acting in good faith, and often approaching the content 
from a different perspecive.  This won't save all the questioned 
articles, but it may bring peace.  perhaps we should begin treating 
simple "nn" deletion requests as a breach of good faith.

Ec
> 2007/9/20, Andre Engels <andreengels at gmail.com>:
>   
>> Whether I agree with that depends on your definition of 'significant'
>> (and 'reliable' as well). Basically, it's just shifting the discussion
>> from relevancy to something that is almost as badly defined. Just like
>> there is a level between "can be seen in one scene of a small movie"
>> and "won an Oscar for best actress" where an actress becomes notable
>> enough, there is a level between "got her name mentioned in two
>> different articles in the Smalltown Weekly" and "had a biography about
>> her published by a mainstream publisher" where her coverage gets
>> 'significant'.
>>
>> What I see as a major problem in this point is that people tend to
>> have widely diverging opinions on where to draw the line, which means
>> that there are quite a number people who for any issue that actually
>> comes under discussion, they will have the same opinion. Thus, the
>> outcome would often more depend on who happen to be the people
>> involved in the debate than the actual pros and cons of the specific
>> subject. How to resolve this I do not know, though, since any attempt
>> at objective criteria would need so many exceptions that it would soon
>> lead us back to the current situation.
>>