[Wikipedia-l] About creating a new language on Wikipedia

[Berto 'd Sera]

So it seems. Yet it's dictated by a simple fact: a dead language is taught
to access existing sources and to learn the evolution of language.

If you add a transistor radio to the Cro-Magnon section of a museum you're
going to pollute that section with improper content.

Bèrto ‘d Sèra
Personagi dl’ann 2006 për l’arvista american-a Time (tanme tuti vojàotri)
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1569514,00.html
 

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[mailto:wikipedia-l-bounces at lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Mark
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Subject: Re: [Wikipedia-l] About creating a new language on Wikipedia

That seems to be a double standard.

On 11/07/07, GerardM <gerard.meijssen at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hoi,
> When a living language creates new concepts it is completely different
from
> the creation of extinct languages. I am not bothered by for instance
> Cherokee finding a need for new vocabulary. I am bothered by this same
need
> for extinct languages.
> Thanks,
>      GerardM
>
> On 7/11/07, Roberto Bahamonde Andrade <chilotin at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > However, there are many cases on communities can't avoid that "original
> > research". Many American languages (Quechua, Náhuatl, Cherokee) haven't
> > words for "edit", "talk page" or "internet", then is necessary find the
> > form
> > of say such concepts. One way to solve it is paraphrasis and another way
> > is
> > the borrowing of a word of English or Spanish and adapt it to phonetics
of
> > the language. No matter the way used, the community of Wikipedians had
> > made
> > original research.
> >
> > Bye.
> >
> > 2007/7/5, GerardM <gerard.meijssen at gmail.com>:
> > >
> > > Hoi,
> > > In the language committee we are not really happy with artificial
> > > languages
> > > or with languages long dead that are given a new lease of life because
> > "we
> > > can". In dead languages you have to do original research in order to
be
> > > able
> > > to name the concepts that are modern and foreign to that language as
we
> > > know
> > > it. Wikipedia is not about original research and you have to create
new
> > > words and in the process change the language in order to write an
> > > encyclopaedia that is to be used in this day and age.
> > > Thanks,
> > >      Gerard
> > >
> > > On 7/5/07, Tim Starling <tstarling at wikimedia.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Berto 'd Sera wrote:
> > > > > Seriously, how would you manage? Do we call up the mobs to scream
> > and
> > > > swear
> > > > > as we did before, or do we nominate 7 Valencian and 7 Catalan
> > Knights
> > > > and
> > > > > make it a Royal Tournament? That's all the choice you're given,
you
> > > > know?
> > > > >
> > > > > You EITHER
> > > > >    choose an external reference
> > > > > OR
> > > > >    choose yourself.
> > > >
> > > > If you're deferring to an external authority to avoid conflict, or
to
> > > > reduce workload, then that's fine. Just don't say you're doing it
> > > because
> > > > you want to follow the "no original research" policy. Most Wikipedia
> > > > policies are common sense. NOR is probably the only one which would
be
> > > > disasterous if it were generalised to life outside Wikipedia.
> > > >
> > > > -- Tim Starling
> > > >
> > > >
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