[Wikipedia-l] About creating a new language on Wikipedia

[GerardM]

Hoi,
It is not a double standard as the two things are not comparable. From the
start we have been clear that we will look at an individual requests and
work towards a conclusion based on what is on offer. An extinct language is
decidedly different and it is not as much in the interest of the WMF to have
wikipedias in such languages.

In this double standards are good.
Thanks,
    GerardM

On 7/11/07, Mark Williamson <node.ue at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> That seems to be a double standard.
>
> On 11/07/07, GerardM <gerard.meijssen at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hoi,
> > When a living language creates new concepts it is completely different
> from
> > the creation of extinct languages. I am not bothered by for instance
> > Cherokee finding a need for new vocabulary. I am bothered by this same
> need
> > for extinct languages.
> > Thanks,
> >      GerardM
> >
> > On 7/11/07, Roberto Bahamonde Andrade <chilotin at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > However, there are many cases on communities can't avoid that
> "original
> > > research". Many American languages (Quechua, Náhuatl, Cherokee)
> haven't
> > > words for "edit", "talk page" or "internet", then is necessary find
> the
> > > form
> > > of say such concepts. One way to solve it is paraphrasis and another
> way
> > > is
> > > the borrowing of a word of English or Spanish and adapt it to
> phonetics of
> > > the language. No matter the way used, the community of Wikipedians had
> > > made
> > > original research.
> > >
> > > Bye.
> > >
> > > 2007/7/5, GerardM <gerard.meijssen at gmail.com>:
> > > >
> > > > Hoi,
> > > > In the language committee we are not really happy with artificial
> > > > languages
> > > > or with languages long dead that are given a new lease of life
> because
> > > "we
> > > > can". In dead languages you have to do original research in order to
> be
> > > > able
> > > > to name the concepts that are modern and foreign to that language as
> we
> > > > know
> > > > it. Wikipedia is not about original research and you have to create
> new
> > > > words and in the process change the language in order to write an
> > > > encyclopaedia that is to be used in this day and age.
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >      Gerard
> > > >
> > > > On 7/5/07, Tim Starling <tstarling at wikimedia.org> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Berto 'd Sera wrote:
> > > > > > Seriously, how would you manage? Do we call up the mobs to
> scream
> > > and
> > > > > swear
> > > > > > as we did before, or do we nominate 7 Valencian and 7 Catalan
> > > Knights
> > > > > and
> > > > > > make it a Royal Tournament? That's all the choice you're given,
> you
> > > > > know?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You EITHER
> > > > > >    choose an external reference
> > > > > > OR
> > > > > >    choose yourself.
> > > > >
> > > > > If you're deferring to an external authority to avoid conflict, or
> to
> > > > > reduce workload, then that's fine. Just don't say you're doing it
> > > > because
> > > > > you want to follow the "no original research" policy. Most
> Wikipedia
> > > > > policies are common sense. NOR is probably the only one which
> would be
> > > > > disasterous if it were generalised to life outside Wikipedia.
> > > > >
> > > > > -- Tim Starling
> > > > >
> > > > >
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