[Wikipedia-l] the tool bar : disable it in some browsers (or fix

[Daniel Mayer]

Erik wrote:
>All I see is a row of buttons and a line under it that says "Click a  
>button to see an example for this formatting" - that seems fairly 
>obvious to me. 

Of course it does. You wrote it. 

>Let's judge this feature based on more feedback than just yours. 

I'm *not* the only one who had a similar complaint. 

>I think your arguments smack of techno-elitism, "I learned wiki markup 
>the hard way, so everyone else has to as well!" 

No - my arguments are from the perspective of a person who is using the 
feature for the first time. Hardly techno-elitism. 

A developer who engages in a CVS commit war in opposition to the consensus of 
the other developers due to the fact that he wants to push through a largely 
untested feature is techno-elitism. 

A developer who does not listen to users is techno-elitism. 

A developer who thinks that his feature is fine, but it is the users who are 
are wrong is techno-elitism. 

>I would have loved to have even such a simple help toolbar when I 
>started using Wikipedia. Yes, wiki markup is simple, but it's good to 
>have learning aids. 

Not when that aid looks like something else and causes confusion. 

-- Daniel Mayer (aka mav)