[Wikipedia-l] Cheating on logo voting

[Guillaume Blanchard]

I forgot an important question :

- Why are you so hurried with deadlines !?

Aoineko


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Guillaume Blanchard" <gblanchard at arcsy.co.jp>
To: <wikipedia-l at Wikipedia.org>
Sent: Monday, September 08, 2003 2:16 PM
Subject: Re: [Wikipedia-l] Cheating on logo voting


> > Guillaume-
> >
> > > I agree and I think we need more time to well organize this second
> round.
> > Not really. We have more than a week until we start.
>
>
>
> I don't think a week is enough to clear all discussion and evaluate all
> solutions, but let's try.
>
>
> > > Rules for the second round are already decided (in details, not only
> vote
> > > system) ?
> >
> > For the most part, yes. I don't think there will be any major changes. I
> > have just set the deadline for the method to Sep 12 so there will be
three
> > days of time to translate the voting instructions.
>
>
>
> I only see a "logo vote system" vote. Who decide the other points?
>
> Even if we have to use Average method (not my favorite method) for that, I
> think we must create pages to vote on:
>
> * Rules for submission
>
> * Deadlines (too short imho)
>
> * Logo vote method (pending...)
>
> * Cheat handling
>
> For submission I think we have better to have one main page with only the
> author favorite logo (1 logo) plus a link to one page per logo with all
> variants.
>
>
>
> > > Do we vote for a concept or for a final logo ?
> >
> > You vote for a final logo. There may be a need to make a transparent
> > version or a larger one, but no significant changes to the winning logo
> > will be made without clear consensus.
>
>
>
> If we vote for a final logo we need a lot of variant, isn't it?
>
> We can like a logo concept but prefer a different color, font text,
> contrast, frame style, etc.
>
> For example, I see a lot of interesting logos variants in the Paullus page
> (made by him?) and I think it may be great if we can vote for all those
> variants (and new ones).
>
> Imho, encourage wikipedians to propose new logos variants, is a better way
> to get the logo witch satisfy the most people. Sure, finalists' authors
must
> select themselves witch logos are in accord with there own concept.
>
>
>
> > > In other term do we have for
> > > each variant of a logo or just for a concept ?
> >
> > You vote on each variant.
>
>
>
> This must avoid FPTP method that disfavor logo with the more variants.
>
>
>
> > > What is the solutions to reduce vote cheating ?
> >
> > You need a user page on Meta that points to an account with at least 10
> > legitimate edits.
>
>
>
> Who will check each user to see if (s)he done at least 10 edits ? What
about
> people who contribute anonymously ?
>
>
>
> > Regards,
> >
> > Erik
>
>
>
> Aoineko
>
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