[Wikimedia Kenya] Fwd: what do you think?

Tue Apr 5 10:22:29 UTC 2011

BT,
My apologies.I thought A few harsh words would bring us to senses .
The problem is getting people for the meet-up.We are so far around 50 but
hardly have we ever exceeded 10 people for thge meetup.So you see?I think
the pad would be the best way to discuss or via commitees.

Anyway the pad is:http://oslimoke.ietherpad.com/1
<http://oslimoke.ietherpad.com/1>and the password is :wikimediakenya

On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 1:14 PM, Oliver Stegen <oliver_stegen at sil.org> wrote:

>  Guys,
>
> Please stay civil – it’s hard enough to agree when talking face to face,
> let alone electronically.
>
> I also had problems entering the pad when I tried for the first few times.
> It’s not everybody’s cup of tea to discuss things online – we may need more
> regular meetings at iHub or suchlike.
>
> On the whole though, I agree that we need to concentrate on the bylaws and
> registration as trust or limited company. How shall we go about coming to a
> consensus which type of registration to follow?
>
> Best,
>
> Oliver (aka BT)
>
>
>   ------------------------------
>
> *From:* wikimediake-bounces at lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:
> wikimediake-bounces at lists.wikimedia.org] *On Behalf Of *Limoke Oscar
> *Sent:* 05 April 2011 11:11
> *To:* Wikimedia Kenya .
> *Subject:* [Wikimedia Kenya] Fwd: what do you think?
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 10:59 AM, Isaac K. Kosgei <kips8505izo at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Dear Oscar,
> About the Etherpad issue you should have explained everything clearly,
> thanks to stave am getting the password today.
>
>
>
>   Kosgei,
>
> I don't mean to be rude but I shared the password long time ago.Maybe you
> don't read your emails carefully.We already have existing bylaws and am not
> sure you have looked at them.We are doing something "simple and
> stupid"...why don't you come to the pad and air the pros and cons of your
> thought?
>
>
>
> My point to you is Why don't register it as a company limited by
> Guarantee? ---NOT FOR PROFIT MAKING:::look at it along those lines and
> if you are OK with that Obadiah and I can assist in drafting the
> constitution (MOA and AOA). at least we have managed to go through the
> process and successful registered one of that Kind
>
>
> On 05/04/2011, Limoke Oscar <oslimoke at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Guys,
> > I am not so happy with this empty talk of you guys.We need to forge ahead
> > and focus on the Chapter.
> > I shared the etherpad for discusiion of the By-lwas only a fistful of the
> > "usual susspects" loged in and contributed to the same.So shame on you if
> > you did not log into the same and you have your mouth wide open
> > chanting-----well my apologies
> >
> > We need to focus on the bylwas and work on timelines.for instance we need
> to
> > say like after 14days after sharing the etherpad,the final discussions
> and
> > contributions will be deemed binding to the whole Chapter.So lets show
> oour
> > commitement and discuss the bylaws.its a shame that some of us have never
> > even read the existing bylaws so it would be very difficult to make a
> good
> > contribution....also read from other Chapters and make wise and learned
> > contributions.....
> >
> > see
> >
>
> >    1. Wikimedia Chapters-
>
> >
> >
> http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikimedia_chapters&diff=0&oldid=2472514
>
> >    2. The Etherpad(password-wikimediakenya)----
>
> >    http://oslimoke.ietherpad.com/1
>
> >    3. WikimediaKE Bylaws--
>
>    >    http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Kenya/bylaws
> >
> > Regards,
> > and see u at the pad.....
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 8:53 AM, Abbas Mahmood <abbasjnr at hotmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >>  let me repeat what I said earlier: we do NOT need TSLG to wire money
> into
> >> a personal account. They could pay the expenses directly to the
> concerned
> >> parties.
> >>
> >> And, to answer your question, when we receive a grant, whether it's from
> >> the government or an institution, the grant is not tax-deductible so
> long
> >> as
> >> it is being utilised to fulfill a non-profit mission. For instance, if
> you
> >> receive a grant to open up an M-Pesa shop, you are supposed to pay tax
> out
> >> of it. But in our case, we are non-profit, so we are tax-exempt.
> >>
> >>     -------------------------------------
> >> Abbas Mahmood
> >> t | +254722215101
> >> f | www.facebook.com/abbasjnr
> >> s | abbasjnr
> >> Wikimedia Kenya Member
> >>
> >> "*Imagine a world in which every single person on the planet is given
> free
> >> access to the sum of all human knowledge. That's our commitment."*
> >> **
> >> Please donate: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate/Now/en
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------
> >> Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 22:37:11 -0700
> >> From: bruceobwari at gmail.com
> >>
> >> To: wikimediake at lists.wikimedia.org
> >> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] what do you think?
> >>
> >> First let me say the case of TSL &G offers us opportunity to learn , i
> do
> >> echo Abbas sentiments regarding the need to focus on by-laws,having
> >> listened
> >> to the guy ,it did make lots of sense that if we think of engaging
> others
> >> we
> >> need to have a formalized engagement ,his being a corporate body it was
> >> crucial . point of correction ,the issue of money being deposited on
> >> individual account and having people posing as wikimedians was
> extensively
> >> used as an example to issue how we can run into serious legal issues if
> we
> >> don't address the issue of formality,
> >>      On a lighter note, somebody please educate  me on this ,whats our
> tax
> >> obligations when money is deposited in our accounts ,VAT , income tax,
> pay
> >> as you earn /deposit ,zero rated tax, have a tax -free day ,won't you!
> >>
> >> On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 10:42 AM, stephen wanjau
> >> <wanjaustev at gmail.com>wrote:
> >>
> >> personally,I think we should focus on the bylaws then form some legal
> >> framework.It was part of the plan anyway.
> >>
>
>
> <snip>
>
>
>
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