[Wikimediaindia-l] Death and Post-mortem of Indian Education Program pilot

[Anivar Aravind]

Thanks Shiju.
I raised same points yesterday , in Malayalam wikimedia list , in a related
thread.
 Thanks for bringing this discussion here

Anivar

On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 5:58 AM, Shiju Alex <shijualexonline at gmail.com>wrote:

> Another strategy that we can adopt while doing this program in India is,
> about the selection of articles for editing. We can ask students to
> contribute to articles that they are interested in, rather than of all of
> them editing the articles on the same topic.
>
> The reason I am telling this is, In India (in general) it is not the
> students who are deciding the course (and career) that they want to
> study/pursue. Parents, relatives, and community around them decide that. So
> even though the student's interest may lie in a specific area, he might be
> studying a different course.
>
> Allowing students to edit in a topic that they like will bring in more
> original content. But the issue with this methodology is, the role of
> Professors might be reduced, and the role of CA and OA might be increased.
> And I am not sure how the
>
> But this methodology is adopted very successfully in Kerala using School
> wiki <http://schoolwiki.in>. But we may say, that is school children and
> they are not mature enough for wikipedia editing. Again that is our
> misconception. In general, personally I am more interested to target school
> students (high school and Plus 2) than college students. School children
> are fantastic. It is true that most of us under estimate them. But to see
> the successful result from India, see the young and wonderful wikipedians
> we have in Malayalam wikipedia and wikisource.
>
> *Note: *Please note that I am replying to this thread as a Malayalam wiki
> community memeber.
>
> Shiju
>
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> On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 12:07 AM, Swaroop Rao <raul.swaroop at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> That's true Arjun, there is a lot of interest in this program in many
>> colleges, and this is going untapped. No, its not dead for sure. It was a
>> pilot, and it didn't come out pretty; no issues, that's how we learn. I
>> think that one thing we learnt is that the US model may not work out well
>> for India, so we need to develop an India specific model for this (That's
>> what we've been trying to do in these previous mails actually I guess).
>>
>> Swaroop Rao
>> (MikeLynch <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MikeLynch>)
>>
>>
>> Steering Committee member, United States Education Program
>>
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>>
>> On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 23:36, Arjun mangol <arjun.mangol at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Hey all,
>>>
>>> I refuse to believe it dead as of yet. There's yet a lot of avenues that
>>> haven't been explored. My personal suggestion was that let IEP establish a
>>> Wikipedia Club in every college in Pune to begin with, that would inculcate
>>> new, interested members who have a genuine passion for the project. Such
>>> clubs could meet every second Sunday, hold guest lecs, set a quota for a
>>> certain no. of articles to be created by the Pune chapter and so on by the
>>> members, teach its members better editing skills, and spread the knowledge.
>>> The CA training prog that I attended was a hell lotta fun and I wish many
>>> of my friends get the feel of it too.
>>>
>>> These clubs would be managed by all the 'veteran' CAs and newer ones if
>>> needed as and when. IEP would be the umbrella organisation to it all, and
>>> we can focus a lot more on quality of articles rather than the sheer no. of
>>> editors and rampant copyvio-ing done as a consequence by the newbies. Give
>>> it thought. My friends in many colleges throughout India were literally
>>> jealous that I was a part of it. Let's not let it go unnoticed that there
>>> is genuine interest spread in pockets throughout the country.
>>>
>>> - Arjun
>>>
>>> On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 11:18 PM, Arnav Sonara <sonara.arnav at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> It was a pilot and hence I guess was meant to die at some point.
>>>>>
>>>>> First up, to the Campus Ambassadors, you guys showed a lot of courage
>>>>> in taking up and then following through on your commitment of being Campus
>>>>> Ambassadors through the length of this Pilot. I hope the team will also
>>>>> speak to the  Ambassadors whilst doing the post-mortem so future programs
>>>>> have the benefit of their "experience". The same also goes to the India
>>>>> Programs team that initiated this project.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks to all of you, yes this was a Pilot, but at no point I see it
>>>> dying.  Its just that we have taken a pause right now to learn from the
>>>> findings and ll come back all prepared and with the help of you all we ll
>>>> try to gain new heights again.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Thanks
>>>> Arnav (ricku).
>>>> (User:Rangilo_Gujarati)<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Rangilo_Gujarati>
>>>>
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