[Wikimediaindia-l] A Wikimedia Foundation Fellow from India

Mahitgar from Marathi Wikipedia mahitgar at yahoo.co.in
Mon Jan 17 15:11:29 UTC 2011


See below for reply: In line
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Thanks Nadig, Gautam, Srikeit, Tinu, Mahesh, all...I will shortly set up 
a public discussion around the scope of the project and am interested in 
hearing from you.

No specific languages set HPN, I've had initial discussions with a 
number of people including Shiju, Sundar and Mohau (a Wikipedian from 
South Africa) and I'm hoping to figure out exactly how to proceed after 
a more thorough set of discussions with anyone interested in the 
subject. I think we can increase the number of languages slightly, but 
the point overall is to set feasible targets within a limited time-frame 
and assemble compelling evidence and action. In that sense, it matters 
less as to which language is used in the process than whether the 
results overall are useful to Wikipedians in India and South Africa at 
large.

In general, the idea is to focus on instances of a citation gap: either 
an already created article whose basis has been established but for 
which there are no citations available, or a situation where citations 
cover a topic only partially, or an article that should be created but 
can't be because of a lack of supporting scholarly evidence.

Until I set up a more formal space for discussion, maybe we can begin 
discussion here. Have you ever faced a situation as described?

Good wishes,
Achal


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Dear Mr.Achal and all

Compliments to Mr.Achal for much needed study fellowship.

I am not sure whether your study will include following points , but this is 
just an attempt to begin a discussion

1) For most people, certain areas and certain phase of life they come across 
certain valuable written info  but afterward one tend to remember info to some 
extant and try to include the info on a wiki but does not remember exact name of 
the books etc  On Marathi Language wikipedia I get some flexibility to write 
since many of the fellow Marathi people are aware of same fact so they do not 
insist on citation immediately but that does not mean that citation is not 
needed. But in the same case if I try to include the same info on en wiki might 
get rejected because they may insist for the citation

2) Another problem is in India we did not have good enough of tradition to note 
down things which can be used for reference , about previous generation  Indian 
people had big enough tradition to shy away from any sort of publicity , such 
cases may be eve about many prominent people so people are aware of the facts 
but written material is hard to find

3) Problems are coming from information coming from rural areas information may 
be genuine but hard to find reference to support the same.

4) Info coming from rural area problem becomes more acute with personalities and 
rural institutions and NGOs working in rural areas , for want of proper 
documentation and  what to accept on encyclopedia and what not to accept becomes 
really challenging.

I am keenly interested in knowing how other indic language wikipedias are 
handling such info being uploaded 


Regards

Mahitgar        

On Monday 17 January 2011 10:40 AM, Hari Prasad Nadig wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 10:32 AM, Bishakha Datta 
> <bishakhadatta at gmail.com <mailto:bishakhadatta at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     Dear all,
>
>     As part of the continuing spate of good news, I'd like to
>     congratulate Achal Prabhala for becoming the latest Wikimedia
>     Foundation Fellow.
>
>     For those of you who don't know him, Achal is a writer and
>     researcher in Bangalore who has participated as a volunteer in the
>     Wikimedia movement in India and globally for years, and as a
>     member of the Foundation?s advisory board.
>
>     Achal will be conducting field research in India and rural South
>     Africa with Wikipedians and non-Wikipedians across three languages
>     to explore ways to compensate for the gap in published/printed
>     sources in many local languages.
>
>     More details at
>    http://blog.wikimedia.org/blog/2011/01/12/new-wikimedia-fellow/
>
>
> Congratulations, Achal. This is good news indeed.
>
> Curious though to know about the languages you have picked for this 
> research! :-)
> -- 
> Hari Prasad Nadig
> http://hpnadig.net | http://twitter.com/hpnadig
> http://flickr.com/hpnadig
>



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Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 21:45:15 -0800 (PST)
From: BalaSundaraRaman <sundarbecse at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] A Wikimedia Foundation Fellow from
    India
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Congrats, Achal. Your area of research is very interesting and has a huge 
potential fallout.

- Sundar

"That language is an instrument of human reason, and not merely a medium for 
the expression of thought, is a truth generally admitted."
- George Boole, quoted in Iverson's Turing Award Lecture


>
>From: Bishakha Datta <bishakhadatta at gmail.com>
>To: India List Wikimedia <wikimediaindia-l at lists.wikimedia.org>
>Cc: Achal Prabhala <aprabhala at gmail.com>
>Sent: Mon, January 17, 2011 10:32:07 AM
>Subject: [Wikimediaindia-l] A Wikimedia Foundation Fellow from India
>
>Dear all,
>
>As part of the continuing spate of good news, I'd like to congratulate Achal 
>Prabhala for becoming the latest Wikimedia Foundation Fellow.
>
>For those of you who don't know him, Achal is a writer and researcher  in 
>Bangalore who has participated as a volunteer in the Wikimedia  movement in 
>India and globally for years, and as a member of the  Foundation?s advisory 
>board.  
>
>Achal will be conducting field  research in India and rural South Africa with 
>Wikipedians and  non-Wikipedians across three languages to explore ways to 
>compensate for  the gap in published/printed sources in many local languages. 
>More details at http://blog.wikimedia.org/blog/2011/01/12/new-wikimedia-fellow/
>
>Cheers
>Bishakha
>  
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Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 11:48:58 +0600
From: Belayet Hossain <bellayet at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] A Wikimedia Foundation Fellow from
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Congratulations, Achal.

Belayet
from Bangaladesh

On 17 January 2011 11:45, BalaSundaraRaman <sundarbecse at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Congrats, Achal. Your area of research is very interesting and has a huge
> potential fallout.
>
> - Sundar
>
> "That language is an instrument of human reason, and not merely a medium
> for the expression of thought, is a truth generally admitted."
> - George Boole, quoted in Iverson's Turing Award Lecture
>
>
> *From:* Bishakha Datta <bishakhadatta at gmail.com>
> *To:* India List Wikimedia <wikimediaindia-l at lists.wikimedia.org>
> *Cc:* Achal Prabhala <aprabhala at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Mon, January 17, 2011 10:32:07 AM
> *Subject:* [Wikimediaindia-l] A Wikimedia Foundation Fellow from India
>
> Dear all,
>
> As part of the continuing spate of good news, I'd like to congratulate
> Achal Prabhala for becoming the latest Wikimedia Foundation Fellow.
>
> For those of you who don't know him, Achal is a writer and researcher in
> Bangalore who has participated as a volunteer in the Wikimedia movement in
> India and globally for years, and as a member of the Foundation?s advisory
> board.
>
> Achal will be conducting field research in India and rural South Africa
> with Wikipedians and non-Wikipedians across three languages to explore ways
> to compensate for the gap in published/printed sources in many local
> languages.
> More details at
> http://blog.wikimedia.org/blog/2011/01/12/new-wikimedia-fellow/
>
> Cheers
> Bishakha
>
>
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-- 
Belayet Hossain
http://www.facebook.com/bellayet
http://twitter.com/bellayet
http://bellayet.wordpress.com (Bangla)
Knowledge is universal
              ...so share it.

Hillel____
If I am not for myself, who will be for me?
If I am only for myself, what am I?
If not now, when?
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Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 11:20:22 +0530
From: CherianTinu Abraham <tinucherian at gmail.com>
Subject: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Press] : BBC Documentaries : Wikipedia at
    10
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BBC Documentaries  : Wikipedia at 10
http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/documentaries/2011/01/110111_wikipedia_at_10.shtml



Featuring Sue, Jimmy, Charles Mathews, Steven and our very own Utkarsh
& Bishakha
Datta (  around minute 18-19)


Regards
Tinu Cherian
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Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 11:22:24 +0530
From: Aditya Sengupta <apsengupta at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] A Wikimedia Foundation Fellow from
    India
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On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 11:00, Achal Prabhala <aprabhala at gmail.com> wrote:

>
> In general, the idea is to focus on instances of a citation gap: either
> an already created article whose basis has been established but for
> which there are no citations available, or a situation where citations
> cover a topic only partially, or an article that should be created but
> can't be because of a lack of supporting scholarly evidence.
>
>
>From the release:

To put it another way, it?s possible that the sum of published scholarly
work from Europe is somewhat close to the sum of ?European? knowledge, and
that the sum of accessible, published scholarly work in many Asian and
African languages is nowhere close to the corresponding body of knowledge
that circulates among speakers of those languages.


This is quite an interesting challenge. Do you have a blog (or any other
device) where one can follow your work in this area?

Aditya Sengupta
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Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 11:44:58 +0530
From: Arun Ramarathnam <arunram25 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] A Wikimedia Foundation Fellow from
    India
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Achal,

Congratulations. This is great news!!
Look forward to discussing this further when we meet again!

Regards
Arun

Sent from my iPad

On 17-Jan-2011, at 10:32 AM, Bishakha Datta <bishakhadatta at gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear all,
> 
> As part of the continuing spate of good news, I'd like to congratulate Achal 
>Prabhala for becoming the latest Wikimedia Foundation Fellow.
> 
> For those of you who don't know him, Achal is a writer and researcher in 
>Bangalore who has participated as a volunteer in the Wikimedia movement in India 
>and globally for years, and as a member of the Foundation?s advisory board.
> Achal will be conducting field research in India and rural South Africa with 
>Wikipedians and non-Wikipedians across three languages to explore ways to 
>compensate for the gap in published/printed sources in many local languages.
> 
> More details at 
http://blog.wikimedia.org/blog/2011/01/12/new-wikimedia-fellow/
> 
> Cheers
> Bishakha
> _______________________________________________
> Wikimediaindia-l mailing list
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