[Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] Reasonator use in Wikipedias

Jane Darnell jane023 at gmail.com
Fri Jan 24 12:54:07 UTC 2014


Sorry, missed the memo on WiDaR - looks *very* impressive - thanks Gerard!

2014/1/24, Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijssen at gmail.com>:
> Hoi,
> As I recall it there is a category with Russian female painters.. Using
> "Widar" [1] and identifying them as a painter and a female takes all of 5
> minutes..
> Thanks,
>      GerardM
>
>
> [1] http://tools.wmflabs.org/wikidata-todo/autolist.html
>
>
> On 24 January 2014 13:40, Jane Darnell <jane023 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Magnus, you are magical as always, thanks!
>> What an odd list though - who has been working so diligently on
>> Russian paintresses? Whoever you are, great work!
>> meanwhile, sending more virtual kudos to Magnus while I dig into these
>> results,
>> Jane
>>
>> 2014/1/24, Magnus Manske <magnusmanske at googlemail.com>:
>> > A list of female painters with no article on en.wp:
>> >
>> http://tools.wmflabs.org/wikidata-todo/autolist.html?q=claim%5B106%3A1028181%5D%20and%20claim%5B21%3A6581072%5D%20%20and%20nolink%5Benwiki%5D
>> >
>> > (might take a few seconds to load)
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> > Magnus
>> >
>> >
>> > On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 8:24 AM, Jane Darnell <jane023 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> I am not convinced that this is useful (yet). I have been generating
>> >> some red-link lists for the upcoming international edit-a-thon about
>> >> Art & Feminism on February 1st, and I tried out this tool to see if I
>> >> could come with with lists of women artists already in other projects.
>> >> With Reasonator I see 503 female persons and 760 male persons. Not
>> >> very helpful (yet) for generating red-link lists.
>> >>
>> >> 2014/1/23, Risker <risker.wp at gmail.com>:
>> >> > On 23 January 2014 15:42, Andy Mabbett <andy at pigsonthewing.org.uk>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> On 23 January 2014 15:12, Magnus Manske <magnusmanske at googlemail.com
>> >
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > I thought about that as well. Besides the intro text, the info box
>> >> would
>> >> >> be
>> >> >> > the main "attraction"; but if infoboxes were to fall back on
>> wikidata
>> >> >> > information, which they could technically already do, all we'd
>> >> >> > have
>> >> >> > to
>> >> >> > do
>> >> >> > is add a blank infobox, and it should automatically fill up with
>> the
>> >> >> > wikidata information. In light of that, writing code to fill an
>> >> infobox
>> >> >> > with values form wikidata to paste into the article seems ...
>> >> >> > low-tech
>> >> >> ;-)
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Indeed - but we have to work with what we have.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Perhaps we could concentrate on one very narrow subject, and its
>> >> >> single corresponding infobox, as a pilot?
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > I suggest that this discussion should be on the various projects that
>> >> might
>> >> > be affected, particularly as different projects have very different
>> >> > ideas
>> >> > about whether the use of Wikidata for anything more than language
>> links
>> >> is
>> >> > acceptable. Many projects do not permit bulk bot creation of content,
>> >> > and
>> >> > this proposal is a close parallel.
>> >> >
>> >> > Further, content that isn't editable on the project on which it is
>> >> > hosted
>> >> > is probably not a very effective way to persuade people to turn it
>> into
>> >> an
>> >> > actual page.
>> >> >
>> >> > Trialing the process on some small projects that actively volunteer
>> >> > to
>> >> > participate would be a first step.
>> >> >
>> >> > Risker/Anne
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