[Wikimedia-l] WMF employee writing articles for $300

[Thyge]

I'm not in principle against transparent paid editing, but it could
actually be considered to violate the ToU's wording: "misrepresenting your
affiliation with any individual or entity"

Regards,
Sir48


2014/1/6 Andreas Kolbe <jayen466 at gmail.com>

> Sure, Todd. But that is not actually in the Wikimedia terms of use. The
> terms of use say,
>
>
>    - Attempting to impersonate another user or individual, misrepresenting
>    your affiliation with any individual or entity, or using the username of
>    another user with the intent to deceive;
>
>
> They do not say,
>
>
>    - Attempting to impersonate another user or individual, misrepresenting
>    your affiliation with any individual or entity, or *using more than
>    username* with the intent to deceive;
>
>
> That whole section is about impersonating other people, making out that you
> represent someone you do not represent, etc. Silence as to one's
> affiliations and identity has always been permitted on Wikimedia projects.
>
> Andreas
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 1:43 PM, Todd Allen <toddmallen at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > They are, however, avoiding scrutiny, as evidenced by widespread
> > disapproval of their actions. That is not a permissible use of socks. The
> > community expects to place more scrutiny on paid editors, not less.
> > On Jan 6, 2014 6:23 AM, "Andreas Kolbe" <jayen466 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > That doesn't follow to me from that wording, Nathan. The English
> > Wikipedia
> > > for example allows socking to enable contributors to contribute to
> > articles
> > > that they would rather not have their real-life name or normal Internet
> > > persona associated with.
> > >
> > > User:John Smith is allowed to create an account named
> > > User:ColourfulCharacter to edit those articles. In doing so, he is not
> > > using "the username *of another user* with the intent to deceive".
> > >
> > > There is no other user of that name. (The only exception would be if
> > there
> > > were a user called User:ColorfulCharacter, say, and Smith's intent was
> to
> > > create confusion between the two accounts.)
> > >
> > > User:John Smith is using a secondary screen name to obscure the fact
> that
> > > both accounts are operated by the same person. And that is allowed.
> > >
> > > I don't even see that Wiki-PR infringed the letter of that section, as
> a
> > > normal person would read it. Just like John Smith, they did not use the
> > > name of some other user. They created multiple accounts. There was no
> > other
> > > user whose username they used, or whom they tried to impersonate.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 1:07 PM, Nathan <nawrich at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 8:01 AM, Andreas Kolbe <jayen466 at gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Nathan,
> > > > >
> > > > > I am unable to find a mention of sockpuppetry in the Terms of Use,
> > > > whether
> > > > > in Section 4 or elsewhere.
> > > > >
> > > > > http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Terms_of_Use
> > > > >
> > > > > I don't think there could be such a mention, really, given that
> > project
> > > > > policies recognise a number of legitimate uses of socks.
> > > > >
> > > > > A.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > The term isn't used, but the behavior is clearly encompassed by the
> > > > prohibition described in the "Engaging in False Statements,
> > Impersonation
> > > > or Fraud" - specifically "using the username of another user with the
> > > > intent to deceive."
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