[Wikimedia-l] Copyright URAA trolls on Wikimedia Commons

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On 01/01/2014 11:33, Gerard Meijssen wrote:
> Hoi,
> What effective claim has been made against Kim Dotcom and, THAT is your
> argument.
> Thanks,
>      GerardM
>
>

The claim is that knowing that items were copyright violations, they 
waited until a DMCA takedown came in before removing a link. Additional 
to that they also, along with their partners, generated many links to 
the same content, that is the criminal conspiracy.

The mens reas, or the wilfulness as it were, starts with the knowledge 
of the violation and the decision to do nothing until a copyright claim 
arrives. That could become a very expensive policy.

But hey, not my arse on the line.


> On 1 January 2014 12:21, ??? <wiki-list at phizz.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> On 01/01/2014 07:41, Gerard Meijssen wrote:
>>
>>> Hoi,
>>> When you go the way of comparing to Kim Dotcom to make a point, you will
>>> have to recognise that the government has been shown to act illegally.
>>> Consequently your argument is without real merit.
>>> Thanks,
>>>        GerardM
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> The first thing that is wrong with the above is that copyright holders are
>> not the Government.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>   On 31 December 2013 20:45, ??? <wiki-list at phizz.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>   On 31/12/2013 15:01, Yann Forget wrote:
>>>>
>>>>   2013/12/31 ??? <wiki-list at phizz.demon.co.uk>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Isn't that the attitude that got Kim Dotcom into trouble?
>>>>>> http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/12/us-unveils-the-
>>>>>> case-against-kim-dotcom-revealing-e-mails-and-financial-data/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> This is a typical trolling. Comparing Megaupload with Wikimedia Commons?
>>>>> Don't you have better (constructive) arguments?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>   I'm comparing your attitude that rather than fixing the known copyright
>>>> issues upfront one should await complaints before addressing, to be
>>>> similar
>>>> to that exhibited by megaupload. An attitude that is essentially one of
>>>> "We'll get away with it for as long as possible, until someone
>>>> complains."
>>>> Meanwhile falsely advertising that the content is free to use.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
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