[Wikimedia-l] [Labs-l] Wikimedia labs-tools

John phoenixoverride at gmail.com
Wed Sep 11 16:11:28 UTC 2013


Petr I apologize for forgetting to hightlight your good work, however as
you have stated you dont have the access needed to fix the issues as you
are just a volunteer and dont have sufficient rights on the boxes. Between
you and coren I know you two care, however Ryan and others have made it a
point to say if stuff breaks it is not a big deal, its not an emergency,
and that they will get around to fixing it when they do. Because tools isnt
a production server it has the lowest priority.


On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 12:01 PM, Fæ <faewik at gmail.com> wrote:

> On 11 September 2013 16:45, Magnus Manske <magnusmanske at googlemail.com>
> wrote:
> > There was a recent mail saying that Labs is not considered "production"
> > stability. Mainly a disagreement about how many 9s in the 99.99999% that
> > represents.
>
> <tangent>
> A familiar rookie error in adding meaningless commitments in
> operational support contracts. No matter how many (fantasy) 9's
> recurring after the decimal reassures you that the risk lower than an
> asteroid wiping out the human race tomorrow, when you ask what damages
> you get back if the system goes down for an actual day or an actual
> week, the answer tends to be zero.
>
> I remember the 1980's when us software engineers used to talk about
> hot-swapping, triple-redundancy and service level guarantees. Out of
> vogue now I guess in the new world of Agile response teams, zero-hour
> contracted support etc.
>
> Fae
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