[Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia blog moving to WordPress.com

[Bence Damokos]

As I understand  the blog is currently a self-hosted instance of Wordpress
and the idea is to move the hosting to somewhere else.
(So this is not MediaWiki vs. Wordpress, but self-hosting vs. not
self-hosting)

Best regards,
Bence


On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 7:29 PM, Theo10011 <de10011 at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 10:26 PM, Lodewijk <lodewijk at effeietsanders.org
> >wrote:
>
> > This was definitely mentioned at Wikimania. What I understood is that it
> > will be hosted externally for performance and reliability reasons, but
> that
> > the rest should remain the same.
> >
>
> So, A blog for one of the top 10 websites in the world is being hosted
> externally "for performance and reliability"? - That doesn't sound right.
> Maybe Mr. Roth & friends can clarify a bit here.
>
> Blogs generally don't require a lot of resources, aside from some comment
> oversight. But it's not like there is a deluge of comments or moderation
> required in the current blog - they average about 1, maybe 2 comments and
> from my impression, don't particularly have a high number of regular
> followers.
>
> This seems like something trivial, perhaps because of familiarity with
> Wordpress, it is being preferred in this case. But then, why are we
> willingly and so easily handing the visitors to a third party? especially
> with so much paranoia about monitoring and privacy issues. Even for the
> sake of our own impression and opinions - Is there a particular role there
> that Mediawiki can't fill in? (I recall Erik once argued that wiki is the
> most versatile platform, does he believe that Wordpress is a better
> alternative? )
>
> Regards
> Theo
>
>
> >
> > Anyway, I'm not an expert here, just what I understood from Matthew Roth
> &
> > friends
> >
> > Lodewijk
> >
> >
> > 2013/9/5 Richard Symonds <richard.symonds at wikimedia.org.uk>
> >
> > > This is being discussed on-wiki too, at
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Privacy_policy#Blog_not_hosted_by_WordPress.3F
> > > .
> > >
> > > Richard Symonds
> > > Wikimedia UK
> > > 0207 065 0992
> > >
> > > Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England
> and
> > > Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513.
> Registered
> > > Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A
> > 4LT.
> > > United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia
> > > movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation
> (who
> > > operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects).
> > >
> > > *Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal
> control
> > > over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.*
> > >
> > >
> > > On 5 September 2013 14:00, Neil Harris <neil at tonal.clara.co.uk> wrote:
> > >
> > > > On 05/09/13 13:37, MZMcBride wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Hi.
> > > >>
> > > >> The recent draft privacy policy mentions that the Wikimedia blog
> > > >> (<https://blog.wikimedia.org>) will soon be hosted by
> WordPress.com.
> > > >>
> > > >> Was this discussed anywhere? If so, where?
> > > >>
> > > >> What is the proposed URL structure of a blog hosted by
> WordPress.com?
> > I
> > > >> think there's a reasonable expectation that when a user visits
> > > >> *.wikimedia.org, we don't simply send his or her browser info to a
> > > third
> > > >> party without his or her consent. This has come up previously with
> > > Jobvite
> > > >> and iframes. It's also come up with the use of tracking tools such
> as
> > > >> Google Analytics, which not only affect one-time visitors, but aim
> to
> > > >> persist client-side.
> > > >>
> > > >> How will the blog be backed up? Relying on an external service means
> > not
> > > >> being in control of the data. Will there be regular backups made to
> > > ensure
> > > >> that if WordPress.com goes away, we won't lose all of our posts?
> > > >>
> > > >> MZMcBride
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > > I agree: this does seem to be a curious decision, at odds with the
> > WMF's
> > > > general policy of self-hosting as much as possible in order to
> maintain
> > > > maximum independence from outside entities, particularly in the
> context
> > > of
> > > > the recent concerns about privacy. I would have thought that
> > maintaining
> > > a
> > > > WordPress installation would be well within the WMF's capabilities.
> > > >
> > > > Neil
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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