[Wikimedia-l] Please, let's save the Wikipedia - from itself

[Michel Vuijlsteke]

The problem is endemic on nl:wp too -- a *very* small number of very
experienced users with very strong opinions make for an at times, er,
interesting atmosphere.

AGF is often pretty much thrown out of the window, and e.g. of deletions
against consensus or even own rules are rife -- see
https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Verzoekpagina_voor_moderatoren/Terugplaatsen#The_Miseriesfor
one example, or
https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Verzoekpagina_voor_moderatoren/Terugplaatsen/Archief/2013_08#KlasCementfor
another.


On 5 September 2013 15:09, Fred Bauder <fredbaud at fairpoint.net> wrote:

> For a serious discussion to happen you will need to disclose some
> examples. The next step is to move beyond anecdote to see if there is a
> general problem.
>
> The particular incident Rui brought up has been pretty much explained,
> but the question remains about have a new or casual editor who commits a
> faux pas can simply be reminded not to rather than being vilified and
> being turned away completely. Everyone does dumb stuff, especially at
> first. The question is whether they learn anything from it.
>
> Fred
>
> > Sorry, but I have seen several instances where it certainly doesn't work.
> > Not in a way you would expect in a normal society anyhow.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Lars Gardenius
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> >  Von: "cro0016 at gmail.com" <cro0016 at gmail.com>
> > An: Lars Gardenius <lars.gardenius at yahoo.de>; Wikimedia Mailing List
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> > CC: "fredbaud at fairpoint.net" <fredbaud at fairpoint.net>; Wikimedia Mailing
> > List <wikimedia-l at lists.wikimedia.org>
> > Gesendet: 14:22 Donnerstag, 5.September 2013
> > Betreff: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Please, let's save the Wikipedia - from itself
> >
> >
> > I wouldn't say dispute resolution has never worked, nor does it not work
> > now. It could use improvement, but the same could be said about
> > everything (and like most things, shortages of volunteers make things
> > harder)
> >
> > Steve Zhang
> > Sent from my iPad
>
>
>
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