[Wikimedia-l] Office hours for VisualEditor

[Isarra Yos]

On 30/10/13 16:32, Bjoern Hoehrmann wrote:
> * Risker wrote:
>> Just to clarify, since 0000 UTC is a confusing time for most of us...is
>> that the minute after 2359 UTC on November 2 (i.e., 7 hours after the first
>> session), or is it the minute after 2359 UTC on November 3?
>>
>> I've seen it used both ways so I just want to be clear.
> Could you elaborate on this confusion and where you think it is common?
> The 24 hour clock divides a day into 24 hours from 0 to 23 starting at
> midnight. 23:59 is 23 hours and 59 minutes after 00:00 on the same day.
>
>    2013-11-03T00:00Z --+
>    2013-11-03T00:01Z   |
>    ...                 |
>    2013-11-03T00:59Z   |-- November 3rd
>    2013-11-03T01:00Z   |
>    ...                 |
>    2013-11-03T23:59Z --+
>    2013-11-04T00:00Z
>    ...
>
> The minute after 2013-11-03T23:59Z is on November 4th. I do understand
> that when setting a deadline you are better off giving the end of a day
> as deadline so the time is up when the day is over, otherwise people see
> a contradiction and get confused, but beyond that I've not encountered
> this particular confusion.
It's probably more common in places where people use 12-hour time for 
more things. Because many 12-hour conventions make absolutely no sense, 
folks can learn to expect time standards to make no sense and then don't 
know whether or not to expect 24-hour time to make sense because the 
precedent they're used to says it may not either.

So while 24-hour time does follow fairly logical conventions, if we're 
less used to using it we won't necessarily know to expect that, which 
might explain some of the confusion.