[Wikimedia-l] New access to non-public information policy, re-ID requirements and data retention

Florence Devouard anthere9 at yahoo.com
Sat Oct 26 17:33:11 UTC 2013


On 10/26/13 5:37 PM, Nathan wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 10:00 AM, Florence Devouard <anthere9 at yahoo.com>wrote:
>
>> As for I, I have totally given up with the idea of preservation of
>> confidential data when the US are somehow involved (if the NSA is already
>> involved in recording German president phone conversations or French
>> diplomatic department communications, who are we to hope that our every
>> steps can be private anyway ?).
>>
>>
> This bit is extraneous and unnecessary because (a) no one is asking the WMF
> to hide details from the NSA, who let's agree couldn't care less about that
> bit of data and (b) anything the NSA is capturing in Germany or France was
> already quite certainly being captured by the governments of Germany and
> France (or really, both).


At 45, I am still perhaps very innocent about my gov.
But really, I do not think the French gov is recording Ms Merkel. If 
only because they very likely do not have the tech means to do so ;)

Still, I disagree with you that the bit is extraneous. The thing is that 
most Europeans were really very shocked to read all that stuff about the 
NSA in the past few months. People are probably more sensitive about 
their private data than they were a couple of days ago because that was 
the opportunity for much talk on the general subject in the past few 
months (which data is recorded, by who, what for and so on).

Flo

> That said, I agree with your three main points and think the WMF legal team
> should consider them very strongly as they bring their failed policy
> proposal back to the drawing board.
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