[Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Education] How to force to enable Visual Editor

Wed Oct 16 12:01:55 UTC 2013

This is a really interesting idea - not just for VE but for other
new-user tools as well.

CCing to Steven, who's been doing some work with the signup interface
- is this sort of hook technically practical?

Andrew.

On 15 October 2013 13:11, Jan Ainali <jan.ainali at wikimedia.se> wrote:
> From Charles original questions I guess that he would be satisified with
> something like:
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:UserLogin&enablevisualeditor=1
>
>
> which should enable the Visual Editor for users signing up through that
> link. If it is possible or not to do that I have no idea.
>
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> 2013/10/15 Craig Franklin <cfranklin at halonetwork.net>
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>> Hear hear.
>>
>> I know this is a battle that the Foundation's engineers can't possibly win,
>> given the circumstances which VE was moved from opt-out to opt-in on enwiki
>> (see
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)&diff=prev&oldid=574251354
>> ,
>> for those who aren't aware).  Turn it on, turn it off; either way someone
>> gets upset.
>>
>> From a pure technical standpoint, is it possible to put a checkbox on the
>> new user page or something so that new users can turn it on without having
>> to delve deep into the untamed wilderness that is the user preferences
>> page?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Craig
>>
>>
>> On 15 October 2013 21:54, Richard Nevell <richard.nevell at wikimedia.org.uk
>> >wrote:
>>
>> > I firmly agree with that, taking a detour to preferences when training
>> new
>> > editors isn't my preferred method.
>> >
>> > Richard
>> >
>> >
>> > On 15 October 2013 12:47, Ziko van Dijk <vandijk at wmnederland.nl> wrote:
>> >
>> > > Hello,
>> > >
>> > > I think that for beginners things must be as simple and clear as
>> > > possible. Make them manipulate the preferences at the beginning of the
>> > > session is already complicated and a waste of time. Don't forget that
>> > > beginners already have to learn so many things quickly, so the more
>> > > you can reduce, the better.
>> > > Actually I'd prefer to have a model wiki that looks like Wikipedia but
>> > > is best suited to use in trainings.
>> > >
>> > > Kind regards
>> > > Ziko
>> > >
>> > >
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>> > > 2013/10/15 Charles Andrès <charles.andres.wmch at gmail.com>:
>> > > > Thanks, but in FR.Wikipedia.org you only have the opt-out option
>> > > (disable visual editor) :-(
>> > > >
>> > > > Charles
>> > > >
>> > > >
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>> > > > Le 15 oct. 2013 à 10:10, Enock Seth Nyamador <kwadzo459 at gmail.com> a
>> > > écrit :
>> > > >
>> > > >> Hello Charles,
>> > > >>
>> > > >> I don't think there is a way to for this in the registration
>> process.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> To enable or disable Visual Editor. Login
>> > > >>
>> > > >> 1. Go to ---> Preferences --> Click Editing tab.
>> > > >> 2. At the bottom of Editing page, Check or uncheck the box beside
>> > > Enable VisualEditor (only in the main and user namespaces)
>> > > >>
>> > > >>
>> > > >> OR
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Follow this link
>> > >
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-editing
>> > > >> Then repeat step 2 above.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Hope it helps.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Thanks.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Regards,
>> > > >> Enock S. Nyamador.
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>> > > >>
>> > > >> On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 7:58 AM, Charles Andres <
>> > > charles.andres.wmch at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > >> Dear all,
>> > > >>
>> > > >> In our new education program with youngs in scholar difficulties, we
>> > > have the problem that only half of the new accounts have the visual
>> > editor
>> > > activated, it's quite annoying to have two teach two way of editing.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Is there a trick to force the activation of Visual Editor for a
>> > > specific user?
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Thanks
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Charles
>> > > >>
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