[Wikimedia-l] September 11 wiki

Pharos pharosofalexandria at gmail.com
Thu Nov 21 22:57:59 UTC 2013


I think Wikimedia NYC could host this archive, given the very high
relevance to our region, perhaps at sep11.nycwiki.org

Thanks,
Richard
(User:Pharos)

On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 2:57 PM, Sarah Stierch <sarah.stierch at gmail.com> wrote:
> I was thinking this also.
>
> There is a museum: http://www.911memorial.org/museum
>
> I don't know anyone there personally, but, I do have many colleagues in the
> GLAM sector in NYC and most likely have a connection to someone at the
> museum. I'm also totally comfortable cold calling them. I'll do that work
> if others want to draft and prepare a game plan on how they see this
> information being preserved and useful.
>
> This museum isn't open yet, and opening a museum surely isn't easy, so I
> can't guarantee a timely response.
>
> Connecting with folks in the digital humanities is a good idea, or perhaps
> even the Computer History Museum. (I know the head curator there)
>
> -Sarah
>
> -Sarah
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 11:52 AM, Lodewijk <lodewijk at effeietsanders.org>wrote:
>
>> Contacting a museum/foundation dedicated to the topic seems to me most
>> ideal. They still would like to have an html dump probably - no need for it
>> to be editable I guess. Setting up a special organization for it seems a
>> bit too much effort imho if there's an easier way.
>>
>> If WMNYC perhaps in contact with a relevant organization at Ground Zero?
>>
>> Lodewijk
>>
>>
>> 2013/11/21 Emilio J. Rodríguez-Posada <emijrp at gmail.com>
>>
>> > If September 11 wiki is a finished work and has a free license, perhaps
>> it
>> > can be included in Wikisource.
>> >
>> > I tried in the past to include Nupedia articles in Wikisource but they
>> were
>> > rejected because they are not free. The irony.
>> >
>> >
>> > 2013/11/21 Tim Starling <tstarling at wikimedia.org>
>> >
>> > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Sep11wiki
>> > >
>> > > I think it's disrespectful to solicit contributions towards a memorial
>> > > website, and then to fail to maintain that memorial website in a
>> > > searchable format.
>> > >
>> > > Today, searching the web for phrases in contributed memorial pages
>> > > brings up only ancient, presumably unmaintained Wikipedia mirrors,
>> > > such as these:
>> > >
>> > > http://encyclopedia.kids.net.au/page/da/Daniel_Brandhorst
>> > > http://www.knowledgerush.com/kr/encyclopedia/Daniel_Brandhorst/
>> > >
>> > > In time, those will disappear from the web, as all other copies have
>> > > done. Thus, relatives of the deceased will have no way to discover
>> > > that these pages ever existed.
>> > >
>> > > In 2007, the September 11 wiki was moved to a non-Wikimedia site,
>> > > evidently hosted by an individual without the capacity to preserve
>> > > that content for posterity. It was offline after only 3 years.
>> > >
>> > > The data is still on our servers. I propose bringing the wiki back up,
>> > > in read only mode, and leaving it like that either until such time as
>> > > there is interest from a non-profit or government organisation in
>> > > taking over the responsibility of indefinite hosting. It would only
>> > > take an hour or so of ops work. It could stay like that for decades
>> > > without needing any further maintenance.
>> > >
>> > > -- Tim Starling
>> > >
>> > >
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