[Wikimedia-l] September 11 wiki

[Sarah Stierch]

I was thinking this also.

There is a museum: http://www.911memorial.org/museum

I don't know anyone there personally, but, I do have many colleagues in the
GLAM sector in NYC and most likely have a connection to someone at the
museum. I'm also totally comfortable cold calling them. I'll do that work
if others want to draft and prepare a game plan on how they see this
information being preserved and useful.

This museum isn't open yet, and opening a museum surely isn't easy, so I
can't guarantee a timely response.

Connecting with folks in the digital humanities is a good idea, or perhaps
even the Computer History Museum. (I know the head curator there)

-Sarah

-Sarah


On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 11:52 AM, Lodewijk <lodewijk at effeietsanders.org>wrote:

> Contacting a museum/foundation dedicated to the topic seems to me most
> ideal. They still would like to have an html dump probably - no need for it
> to be editable I guess. Setting up a special organization for it seems a
> bit too much effort imho if there's an easier way.
>
> If WMNYC perhaps in contact with a relevant organization at Ground Zero?
>
> Lodewijk
>
>
> 2013/11/21 Emilio J. Rodríguez-Posada <emijrp at gmail.com>
>
> > If September 11 wiki is a finished work and has a free license, perhaps
> it
> > can be included in Wikisource.
> >
> > I tried in the past to include Nupedia articles in Wikisource but they
> were
> > rejected because they are not free. The irony.
> >
> >
> > 2013/11/21 Tim Starling <tstarling at wikimedia.org>
> >
> > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Sep11wiki
> > >
> > > I think it's disrespectful to solicit contributions towards a memorial
> > > website, and then to fail to maintain that memorial website in a
> > > searchable format.
> > >
> > > Today, searching the web for phrases in contributed memorial pages
> > > brings up only ancient, presumably unmaintained Wikipedia mirrors,
> > > such as these:
> > >
> > > http://encyclopedia.kids.net.au/page/da/Daniel_Brandhorst
> > > http://www.knowledgerush.com/kr/encyclopedia/Daniel_Brandhorst/
> > >
> > > In time, those will disappear from the web, as all other copies have
> > > done. Thus, relatives of the deceased will have no way to discover
> > > that these pages ever existed.
> > >
> > > In 2007, the September 11 wiki was moved to a non-Wikimedia site,
> > > evidently hosted by an individual without the capacity to preserve
> > > that content for posterity. It was offline after only 3 years.
> > >
> > > The data is still on our servers. I propose bringing the wiki back up,
> > > in read only mode, and leaving it like that either until such time as
> > > there is interest from a non-profit or government organisation in
> > > taking over the responsibility of indefinite hosting. It would only
> > > take an hour or so of ops work. It could stay like that for decades
> > > without needing any further maintenance.
> > >
> > > -- Tim Starling
> > >
> > >
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*Sarah Stierch*
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