[Wikimedia-l] Effectiveness of meetings (Was: Affcom ...)

[Jon Davies]

I have sat through so many meetings that wasted time in various degrees
that I thought of a football referee system where people could hold us
yellow or red cards if they thought the meeting should be 'warned' or 'sent
off'.
More than two cards and the meeting gets abandoned or sorts itself out.

On 14 May 2013 18:16, Mathias Damour <mathias.damour at laposte.net> wrote:

> Le 14/05/2013 13:39, Lodewijk a écrit :
>
>> (...)
>>
>> Based on these desired outcomes, you can estimate up front if the meeting
>> is likely to be 'worth it'. If not, you can reduce the costs, increase the
>> outcomes (different setup) or cancel all together.
>>
>>  2013/5/14 Lodewijk <lodewijk at effeietsanders.org>
>>>
>>>  The second relevant question is, in my opinion, whether the WMF travel
>>>> policy
>>>> is good, proportional etc. This policy has mostly received criticism
>>>> from
>>>> two sides - some think it is too elaborate, and WMF should get 'less
>>>> luxury' (again fair discussion, but we should then focus on the whole
>>>> question) - another criticism is that it should be equalized for all
>>>> Wikimedia-sponsored trips, including individual engagement grants,
>>>> trips to the chapters meeting etc. When this question was brought up last
>>>> time, I
>>>> believe it was Sue who mentioned that this would simply result in much
>>>> less travel and participation. Again, a fair question.
>>>>
>>>
> "this would simply result in much less travel" !!! Well, less travel, not
> only cost control, could be a justifiable objective itself.
> I mean that to convert the donations to Wikimedia into burning vast
> amounts of under-taxed kerosene is definitely not an environmentally
> friendly and responsible way to run the Wikimedia movement.
>
> I personally went to the chapter meeting in Milan rather than insist on
> attending the next Wikimania in good part because I could get there by
> train.
>
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