[Wikimedia-l] Go away, community (from WMF wiki at least)
Huib Laurens
sterkebak at gmail.com
Mon May 13 07:27:11 UTC 2013
Thomas,
She is on holiday, she will not be in the office today?
Huib
On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 3:22 PM, Thomas Goldammer <thogol op gmail.com> wrote:
> Just a general note, could you please all wait for Gayle to get back to her
> office? ^^ I think she wanted to address some of the things discussed here
> on Monday, which is by San Francisco time. So maybe let it rest for a few
> hours now? :)
>
> Th.
> p.s. sorry about the empty email, my mouse is broken and clicks randomly.
>
>
> 2013/5/13 Thomas Goldammer <thogol op gmail.com>
>
> >
> >
> > 2013/5/13 Keegan Peterzell <keegan.wiki op gmail.com>
> >
> >> On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 2:03 AM, James Alexander <jamesofur op gmail.com
> >> >wrote:
> >>
> >> > On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 12:00 AM, Peter Southwood <
> >> > peter.southwood op telkomsa.net> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Lets get a few things in perspective:
> >> > > 1. How many community members were abusive/unreasonable/whatever
> >> beyond
> >> > > what might be considered a startle reaction to an apparent attack
> >> without
> >> > > warning?
> >> > > 2 How many people constitute this community
> >> > > Divide answer 1 by answer 2
> >> > >
> >> > > Consider how much of the response was a snowball effect of
> frustration
> >> > due
> >> > > to a distinct shortage of explanation and direct answers to what
> >> might be
> >> > > considered reasonable questions.
> >> > >
> >> > > And yes, "Welcome to Wikipedia "
> >> > >
> >> > > Cheers,
> >> > > Peter
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> > 2 is an unreasonable number to divide by when it's such a small cross
> >> > section of the actual community on these lists.
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> >>
> >> That's a bit relative, James. The active folk on this mailing list make
> >> for a pretty good cross section of thoughts/feelings/opinions of the
> >> movement. I've refrained from this discussion and will continue to do
> so
> >> on specifics, because it's politics and that's not something I do on
> >> Wikipedia/Wikimedia.
> >>
> >> Things have been said in this discussion that I agree with, things have
> >> been said that I do not agree with. All in all, my opinion is not
> needed
> >> because it has been expressed by others, and I do not feel compelled to
> >> say
> >> my side. This is where we speak and we listen, and it is disheartening
> to
> >> read that you feel embarrassed to be from the community when you have to
> >> explain "drama" to them.
> >>
> >> These threads bring out the best and the worst in Wikimedians, for
> >> certain,
> >> but it's all out of cause of passion. We're here because we care, no
> >> matter the pattern or the tone of conversations. This is a global
> >> audience, intelligent, collaborative, and willing to learn. The
> Wikimedia
> >> Foundation is global, intelligent, and I assume good faith about
> >> collaboration and willingness to learn. Gayle's email reflects her
> >> opinion
> >> on getting this concept and working with it in the future, and I'm happy
> >> with that.
> >>
> >> All in all, I guess I just agree with Phoebe.
> >>
> >> --
> >> ~Keegan
> >>
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