[Wikimedia-l] Go away, community (from WMF wiki at least)

[Thomas Goldammer]

Just a general note, could you please all wait for Gayle to get back to her
office? ^^ I think she wanted to address some of the things discussed here
on Monday, which is by San Francisco time. So maybe let it rest for a few
hours now? :)

Th.
p.s. sorry about the empty email, my mouse is broken and clicks randomly.


2013/5/13 Thomas Goldammer <thogol at gmail.com>

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> 2013/5/13 Keegan Peterzell <keegan.wiki at gmail.com>
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>> On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 2:03 AM, James Alexander <jamesofur at gmail.com
>> >wrote:
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>> > On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 12:00 AM, Peter Southwood <
>> > peter.southwood at telkomsa.net> wrote:
>> >
>> > > Lets get a few things in perspective:
>> > > 1. How many community members were abusive/unreasonable/whatever
>> beyond
>> > > what might be considered a startle reaction to an apparent attack
>> without
>> > > warning?
>> > > 2 How many people constitute this community
>> > > Divide answer 1 by answer 2
>> > >
>> > > Consider how much of the response was a snowball effect of frustration
>> > due
>> > > to a distinct shortage of explanation and direct answers to what
>> might be
>> > > considered reasonable questions.
>> > >
>> > > And yes, "Welcome to Wikipedia "
>> > >
>> > > Cheers,
>> > > Peter
>> > >
>> >
>> > 2 is an unreasonable number to divide by when it's such a small cross
>> > section of the actual community on these lists.
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>> That's a bit relative, James.  The active folk on this mailing list make
>> for a pretty good cross section of thoughts/feelings/opinions of the
>> movement.  I've refrained from this discussion and will continue to do so
>> on specifics, because it's politics and that's not something I do on
>> Wikipedia/Wikimedia.
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>> Things have been said in this discussion that I agree with, things have
>> been said that I do not agree with.  All in all, my opinion is not needed
>> because it has been expressed by others, and I do not feel compelled to
>> say
>> my side.  This is where we speak and we listen, and it is disheartening to
>> read that you feel embarrassed to be from the community when you have to
>> explain "drama" to them.
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>> These threads bring out the best and the worst in Wikimedians, for
>> certain,
>> but it's all out of cause of passion.  We're here because we care, no
>> matter the pattern or the tone of conversations.  This is a global
>> audience, intelligent, collaborative, and willing to learn.  The Wikimedia
>> Foundation is global, intelligent, and I assume good faith about
>> collaboration and willingness to learn.  Gayle's email reflects her
>> opinion
>> on getting this concept and working with it in the future, and I'm happy
>> with that.
>>
>> All in all, I guess I just agree with Phoebe.
>>
>> --
>> ~Keegan
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