[Wikimedia-l] Are there plans for interactions between wikidata and wiktionaries ?

Andrea Zanni zanni.andrea84 at gmail.com
Mon Mar 11 14:22:37 UTC 2013

Hi Denny,
as Nemo pointed out, that grant is for Wikisource :-)

We spoke about that briefly in the Office hours:
one of the main thing Wikidata could do, I think,
is to centralize cross-wiki links, the very same way it centralized
I don't know how difficult could it be, but I sense this would be a
breakthrough for all sister projects.
We could review the Sister template, and make cross-wiki navigation much
more easy and useful.


On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 3:16 PM, Federico Leva (Nemo) <nemowiki at gmail.com>wrote:

> Denny Vrandečić, 11/03/2013 14:52:
>  There is currently a number of things going on re the future of
>> Wiktionary.
>> There is, for example, the suggestion to adopt OmegaWiki, which could
>> potentially complicate a Wikibase-Solution in the future (but then again,
>> structured data is often rather easy to transform):
>> <http://meta.wikimedia.org/**wiki/Requests_for_comment/**Adopt_OmegaWiki<http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Adopt_OmegaWiki>
>> >
>> There is this grant proposal for elaborating the future of Wiktionary,
>> which I consider a potentially smarter first step:
>> <
>> http://meta.wikimedia.org/**wiki/Grants:IEG/Elaborate_**
>> Wikisource_strategic_vision<http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IEG/Elaborate_Wikisource_strategic_vision>
> That's Wikisource. :)
>> There's this discussion on Wikdiata itself:
>> <https://www.wikidata.org/**wiki/Wikidata:Wiktionary<https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Wiktionary>
>> >
>> And I know that Daniel K. is very interested in working into this
>> direction.
>> Personally, I regard Wiktionary as the third priority, following Wikipedia
>> and Commons. A lot of the other projects -- like Wikivoyage or Wikisource
>> -- can be served with only small changes to Wikidata as it is, but both
>> Commons and Wiktionary would require a bit of thought (and here again,
>> Commons much less than Wiktionary).
> Actually Wikiquote and Wikivoyage use interwikis exactly like Wikipedia;
> Commons in the same way except it's interproject; Wiktionary in the same
> way except it's case-sensitive and not about concepts (opr about a stricter
> definition of concept); Wikisource in a completely different way;
> Wikibooks, Wikinews and Wikiversity I'm not sure.
> As for phase II, it's another story. Wikisource and Commons would benefit
> a lot from it; for Wiktionary it could be a revolution; for Wikispecies
> idem but with less effort (?); Wikiquote would become
>  I would appreciate a discussion with
>> the Wiktionary-Communities, and also to make them more aware of the
>> OmegaWiki proposal, the potential of Wikidata for Wiktionary, etc. Just to
>> give a comparison: it took a few months to write the original Wikidata
>> proposal, and it was up for discussion for several months before it was
>> decided and acted upon. I would strongly advise to again choose slow and
>> careful planning over hastened decisions.
> It's impossible to plan or discuss anything without knowing what matters.
> Nemo
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