[Wikimedia-l] Fwd: [Commons-l] FOP in Europe: does this include WWII monuments with art?

[Lodewijk]

However, the location of the servers wasn't the topic of the original
discussion :) So jumping back to that: Is there already a clear outcome on
the Commons community regarding the possible deletion of images that are
legal in the country of origin but might not be permitted under US
copyright law?

Lodewijk

2013/3/3 Fae <faewik+commons at gmail.com>

> On 3 March 2013 06:50, James Alexander <jamesofur at gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 3:59 AM, Tobias Oelgarte <
> > tobias.oelgarte at googlemail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> The problem are not the European laws. It are the US laws that don't
> >> recognize the European FOP. That means it would be perfectly legal to
> host
> >> such images on an European server (in a country that recognizes FOP),
> but
> >> not on US servers, because they are subject to US law.
> >>
> >
> >  I'm sorry, I keep seeing this argument and while I can understand the
> > basic idea every time I see it I feel like little kitten dies. There is
> no
> > doubt that the US FOP laws are a little insane and that the EU ones are
> > generally much more lenient, however, it is obviously far far more
> > complectated then that. There are plenty of EU laws which would are
> > applicable to site/image hosting which are far more complicated and
> harder
> > (or impossible) for us to follow. Overall the laws in the US have still
> > tended to be much much better to host, and that doesn't even get into the
> > problem of hosting in multiple locations and still trying to serve to a
> > site hosted (or with staff) in the US.
>
> *No kittens were harmed during this discussion*
>
> We should keep an open mind, and the location of the servers to
> support the global movement should be reviewed and seen to be reviewed
> on a periodic basis, if nothing else international law, economics and
> political stability, changes every year. By default, we would never
> change unless there were jolly good reasons to justify the hassle and
> expense; though folks are always going to enjoy challenging the status
> quo, which is probably a healthy thing and the kittens get their
> dinners regardless.
>
> Cheers,
> Fae
>
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